TBPS Files Suit Against the School Board

Take Back Perry Schools files suit against the school board. The announcement was made today at 2:00pm, by legal representation from Ed Delaney.

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  1. 1 Nancy Douglass Mar 26th, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    FABULOUS!!!! It shouldn’t have come to this, but if this lawsuit is successful, it will surely help convince lawmakers to draft language that protects communities from situations like this in the future.

    Way to go TBPS!!

  2. 2 Brett Naum Mar 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    You have my full support in doing whatever it takes (legally) to take out these four board members.

  3. 3 Tim Nance Mar 26th, 2007 at 11:41 pm

    As a plaintiff in this case, I would like to express why I chose to be part of filing this legal complaint. Simply put, I feel like Mrs. Adams, Mrs. Walsh, Mrs. Thompson, and Mrs. Alexander have given me no other alternative.

    My remaining remarks here are an open note to them:

    The people of this community have tried for over five months now to work with the four of you.

    We have tried to reason with you.
    You will not listen.

    We have tried to offer compromise.
    You have refused.

    We have expressed our concerns.
    You have ignored us or at times, even mocked, admonished, and chastised us.

    We are your constituents.

    You are accountable to us and maybe today’s action will open your eyes to that fact.

    A complaint has been filed in Marion County Superior Court today charging you four with unlawfully placing Dr. Williams on leave.

    You only have yourselves to blame for the spot where you now find yourselves.

    Maybe through this action, the people of Perry Twp. will get what we deserve - Elected officials that listen to us and represent us.

    If so, it will be sad that it took litigation for you to meet the most basic of expectations of your constituents.

    Tim Nance

  4. 4 Rebecca Kimmey Mar 27th, 2007 at 6:40 am

    Thank You Tim for being our voice on this matter. We support you! I hope that this will open their eyes to what we as perry citizens want for our children. All my best.

  5. 5 Carla Koehl Mar 27th, 2007 at 8:21 am

    This is so awesome!!! We finally have pure hope. I can”t believe Nancy Walshes comments last night, We are trying to bring negativity. Hello. Thats all you have brought to the board. What TBPS is doing is trying to bring a resolution to the situation, unfortunately this is the only way we can get you to listen. Now maybe we can spend our money on our children. Frivolous, I dont think so. P.S. I need signs. Can you tell me what to do about getting them please?

  6. 6 Confused Mar 27th, 2007 at 9:30 am

    Once again, I am confused. How does this help anything?

    What arguments will you all be posing? They won’t listen to you? They have a 4-3 block on things? They are paying Dr. Williams for not working? They are wasting money?

    I must be missing something. I do not like they way they are and have done things but I see a law suit as just another costly divider for our township.

    What do you get if you win? Dr. Williams back to work? Right, that would be a pretty smooth transition.

  7. 7 Owen Mar 27th, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    To Confused,

    We would get an award winning superintendent, who is familiar with our school system, that can step right in and put this administration back on track. We can stop wasting financial resources on attorneys, stop rehashing resolutions that have already been passed (Edison Contract), stop the fight or flight of our quality teachers, address cutrrent issues (gangs in our schools), and start the healing of our community.

    Our School board members need to realize they’re position is policy making not micro-managing the administration.

  8. 8 Tim Nance Mar 27th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    To Confused,
    Let me try to answer a few of your questions.

    You want to know how this law suit can help anything? The answer is that there will finally be an impartial party with power to break this logjam. Right now, Perry Twp. is just spinning its wheels. These four board members act as if they are not accountable to anyone. They think they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want knowing there will be no consequence as long as they continue to vote as a block of four (making a majority).

    You say “They won’t listen to you.” You are exactly right. They will have to listen and adhere to the judge’s ruling, however.

    You say they are paying Dr. Williams for not working. Once again, you are correct but depending on the case’s outcome, Dr. Williams might be reinstated and actually earning his paycheck again. From what I have heard, he has been ready to do so for months on end now.

    You say they are wasting money. Now you are three for three. Let me just say without going into the specifics of the complaint, there is a chance with a favorable ruling from the judge that these four will have to personally reimburse those wasted township dollars.

    I am not being sarcastic when I say it appears that you are not as confused as you say. You seem to be just frustrated by these four members’ lack of professionalism, leadership, and good judgement. If that is true. Do not feel bad. Nearly every one in the township I talk to these days shares that same frustration. That is precisely why our law suit is necessary.

  9. 9 Amy Stinson Mar 27th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    “Once again, I am confused. How does this help anything?”

    There is no other way to hold them accountable.

  10. 10 Becoming Much Less Confused Mar 27th, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    Confused,

    I’ve had many of these questions myself. There’s almost no chance that there will be a smooth, easy resolution to the troubles that have plagued Perry Township since the four board members gained their majority.

    But what’s the better alternative to a lawsuit at this point? How otherwise can these individuals be kept from continuing to send our schools on a downward path? It would be ABSOLUTELY AWESOME if there were less costly, less divisive ways to hold the board majority accountable for their hasty, ill-conceived, misguided actions. The sad fact is, they have consistently claimed to be acting in the best interest of Perry Township schools — which means they will continue their destructive ways until they no longer have the power to do so.

    It would be a real shame if Perry Township residents merely grumbled and complained about what’s been happening but then took no action to effect change. I applaud TBPS for mobilizing, for taking action, for committing their personal time and resources for the greater good, and most of all, for providing continual COMMUNICATION about this situation.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA that we all take it for granted that we can speak our mind in a public forum and expect answers from our elected leaders.

  11. 11 Jody Bleier Mar 28th, 2007 at 7:20 am

    This lines up with what the state Board of Education said when I called the same week they dismissed Dr. Williams. I was told that unless a board member did something illegal, you could not remove them from the board until the following election. Seems crazy that you can’t impeach or SOMETHING, but this is it. Thanks for taking action!

  12. 12 Teresa Smith Mar 28th, 2007 at 8:03 am

    From my perspective, this offers me the hope that there is a system that can hold them accountable for not following policies and procedures. It physically nauseates me to watch how the president of the board conducts business. When I hear on the record, that members of the board feel that they don’t have information needed to make an educated decision and the president doesn’t listen. That is just bad business – period.

    I witness papers being passed down to the other members of the board during an item being discussed. The first three recipients have no expression or concern. The last three recipients start looking intently to read and try to review the documentation. Their faces show shock and disbelief. Coincidentally, the first three favor the comments of the president. The other three have questions and concerns. That is nauseating.

    It was so much easier sitting through Monday’s board meeting feeling that there is a chance that this activity can be contained and controlled. My 5th grader was studying the systems of checks and balances for the government. Why are there no checks and balances for a local school board? Hopefully, this might establish a precedent so that this type of activity doesn’t occur again at Perry Township or in other school districts.

    I am hopeful this will get us out of a rut and get those spinning wheels on more solid ground. I am hopeful this will force us to take a legal, professional step in the right direction.

    Whether it is the right or wrong thing to do; only time will tell! Monday night, it felt right. As we met after the meeting, it felt right. As I watched Nancy Walsh’s comments on television, it felt right. As I type this comment, it still feels right. I have talked to so many people outside of the very active participants of Take Back Perry Schools and they feel it is right, too.

  13. 13 Blake Willsey (PM Alum) Mar 28th, 2007 at 9:34 am

    It is sad that it has come to this, but I will say this for the four board members: they sure have done a good job at uniting the township even though it is against themselves. I’m not saying that everyong is in support of Dr Williams, but it sure seems that a good majority of Perry isn’t in favor of the board’s actions. I know that this may be the worst way to unite people, by giving them an enemy to target, but perhaps in the future Perry will be more united. Not to say that it wasn’t united before, but it is now more apparent to everyone that we are united.

  14. 14 Ron- Southport Staff Mar 28th, 2007 at 9:54 am

    Well - at least TBPS are spending their own money. Not taxpayer money.

  15. 15 Interested observer Mar 28th, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    Has anyone noticed all information at www.perryschools.info has been taken down?

  16. 16 Admin Mar 28th, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Yes, we noticed. Makes me wonder why it was removed. I wonder if their new lawyer advised them to take it down.

  17. 17 Ronda Mar 28th, 2007 at 11:49 pm

    Hmmm….what are they trying to hide ?!?
    Perhaps their ‘version’ of their so-called ‘facts’! Could it be used for questioning?

  18. 18 Confused Mar 29th, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Owen,

    How is the lawsuit going to provide the things you outlined? Do you believe the lawsuit will result in a Judge removing the members from office?

  19. 19 Confused Mar 29th, 2007 at 11:48 am

    Why has Dr. Williams filed his own suit to re-instate himself?

  20. 20 Gwen Freeman Mar 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    In my blog at the IndyStar Comments on the lawsuit activity, I went out on a limb and stated the “majority of the community” supports the activity of TBPS. I thought it interesting that a less than literate individual took issue with that statement. When I talk to my neighbors, co-workers that live in Perry Twp, and others in the community, there is a definite unity to oust the 4 rogue board members. Not all of these people attend the school board meetings or actively wear their orange, but they all say they are in favor of TBPS and the legal action. I am curious–am I the only one hearing overwhelming support of the action against the board?

  21. 21 thank you TBPS! Mar 29th, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    Gwen, ooh no, you are not the only one hearing the support. I know of people who aren’t all that crazy about Williams…but yet support this effort to the end!! It became about the board a long time ago..
    And to confused…Dr. Williams has NOT filed his own suit.

  22. 22 Owen Mar 30th, 2007 at 2:09 am

    Confused

    I think Tim Nance did an excellent job addressing your questions.

    “How is the lawsuit going to provide the things you outlined? Do you believe the lawsuit will result in a Judge removing the members from office?”

    If the 4 board members had evidence to support termination, then Dr Williams would alresdy be terminated, and we would not be paying attorneys to investigate. I don’t believe the lawsuit will result in a Judge removing the members from office. I don’t think it will be a smooth transition, there is too much division and animosity for that. I would hope the board mambers will be willing to mediate with Dr. Williams. Just as we all must interact with others with opposing viewpoints, the board and superintendent need to get along and I think mediation will help. Dr Williams has expressed his willingness to cooperate with the board, the board has been entrenched and that needs to change.

  23. 23 Rebecca Kimmey Mar 30th, 2007 at 7:26 am

    Gwen, you’re not the only one that has heard from the public, just the other day, I was at church, keep in mind; our church is on the north side of town. I spoke to a gentleman that heard about what is going on here in Perry Township and he agrees with us, that the mob of four is in the wrong. And he is not the only person either. We have so much support from everyone I have spoken to.
    However, I am afraid if they (mob of four) are successful, that all of our children will suffer in our schools. My husband and I are talking about taking our boys out of Perry Schools as soon as possible. I am sure that we are not the only ones. Is this what they want?

  24. 24 Confused Mar 30th, 2007 at 9:12 am

    That was a typo. I meant to ask why hasn’t he filed his own suit?

    From the Star.
    The suit, filed this afternoon in Marion Superior Court by Take Back Perry Schools, asks the court to declare the board’s conduct in suspending Williams in November without charge unlawful.

    If it was unlawful, why doesn’t Dr. Williams file the suit?

  25. 25 William-ized Mar 30th, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    Cause it isn’t unlawful, Confused..they want people to think it is.

  26. 26 Admin Mar 30th, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    Welcome back Bill. Same name, different address. I thought you were done with us?

  27. 27 William-ized Mar 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    couldnt resist one last dig. this is unbelieveable what you all will do for Williams.

  28. 28 Admin Mar 30th, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    So you actually admit you were digging. Although the situation on how the four have handled the situation with Doug is at the crux, we’re not doing this “for” Dr. Williams at all. We’re doing it “for” ourselves and the rest of the parents and children in Perry Township. Nothing positive has come from this gang of four and we’re doing everything we can to keep them from destroying more in their path. As I’ve said from the beginning, if they had presented valid reasons and facts to support their quest to remove the township of Dr. Williams, I’d probably have supported them, but they’ve provided NOTHING! even close.

  29. 29 Tim Nance Mar 30th, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    Did anyone really think that William-ized could stay away from here?

    I would like to reply to his little comment, “It is unbelieveable what you all will do for Williams.” I do not really know Dr. Williams, personally, so let me explain to you my personal motivation regarding my efforts. I am doing this:

    1. for my family. We live in Perry Twp and I think Dr. Williams has made our schools better. Good schools are extremely important to a community and I want my family to live in a respected community with a reputation for being part of a good school district. Many people I talk to tell me that they chose to live in Perry Twp. because of our schools. Now many are saying that they are considering leaving because of of our schoolboard’s (majority) decisions and actions.

    2. for my students. I teach in Perry Twp. I know my students have benefited directly from the initiatives started by Dr. Williams. It is, also, very much in the best interest of students to go to schools where the teachers and other staff members feel great about their jobs.
    Which leads me to point three.

    3. for myself. I remember what working in Perry was like before Dr. Williams was our superintendent. Morale was low. The teachers were unappreciated. There was a real feeling of “Us against Them” when speaking of teachers and Twp. Administration. I, also, know what it has been like working in Perry under Williams’ leadership. It didn’t happen over night, but the emplyees of Perry Twp. did unite. Teachers, principals, and Twp. administrators all began to work as a team for the betterment of our students. Which loops me back to point two. Which as a teacher, is much more important to me than point three.

  30. 30 Interested observer Mar 30th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Rebecca, you and your husband are not alone. I know of other parents who are enrolling their children in private schools for the very same reason.

  31. 31 Confused Apr 26th, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    Admin,

    How can you say what you are doing is not for Dr. Williams but then on the home page announce that this site is for support of Dr. Williams and want people to pledge their support for him?

    This site, and TBPS is for Dr. Williams period. The Board’s actions are the problems that face Williams.

    Everyone now says this is not about Williams, yes it is, what else is it about? The way the Board behaved? Right, they want/wanted to get rid of Williams. That is the problem. Seems pretty simple to me.

  32. 32 Admin Apr 26th, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    I don’t know why this is so hard or confusing to you. Do we support Williams? Absolutely! If they’d already fired Williams and he was already in a different school district, and this board was still in power would we still be opposed to their actions as a board? Absolutely!

    You should read the following posts, as they illustrate that the efforts of TBPS are inclusive and far beyond only reinstating Dr. Williams.
    http://www.takebackperryschools.com/2007/04/26/focusing-on-the-financial-impact/
    http://www.takebackperryschools.com/2007/04/17/complaint-for-declaratory-relief-from-school-board/
    http://www.takebackperryschools.com/2007/04/07/public-forum-on-monday-april-16th-at-7pm/

    This website is specifically for showing support of Dr. Williams and the issues surrounding this ordeal. The Take Back Perry Schools website was setup after WSW and is an effort to do much more than put Dr. Williams back in his position as superintendent.

    If you don’t believe the board has done more damage to this district than just putting Dr. Williams on administrative leave or “home assignment” then you need to do more research into the board and the impact of their various actions and incompetencies on our school distict and township.

  33. 33 Owen Apr 26th, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    Confused,

    Somehow I get the impression you are not as confused as you would like to appear. Perhaps you know one of the majority board members personally? Or do you have a personal reason to oppose Williams?

  34. 34 Confused May 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    I don’t know anyone involved on a personal level. I have also done plenty of reading and research on this whole matter.

    All the issues with the Board are centered around Williams. If the Williams incident never happened or TBPS never opposed it, then many of the other issues everyone is up in arms about would not have occured.

    It is all about Williams based on my analysis. All the delays, New Tech High, Edison, etc… had Williams at the core. What I mean is many of the delays might not have happened if everyone was not so side tracked.

  35. 35 Admin May 1st, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    The way the four board members proceeded to remove Dr. Williams is the initiating catalyst for our activities. However, their ongoing mishandling of the situation and failed ability to adequately manage any school related issue is now of greater importance. I am continually appalled at the incompetence of any of the four board members to complete anything constructive in a board meeting. “All the delays, New Tech High, Edison, etc…” would not have occurred if Dr. Williams and the rest of the administration had been left alone to do the job they were hired to do and were doing. Let’s not forget that the real “cause” for this issue is that the Dr. Williams probably saw what I see every board meeting and let the ladies know that they have no clue on how run a school system. Let me also assure you of this, regardless of the outcome with Dr. Williams, as long as these women are in control Take Back Perry Schools is here to stay. Take Back Perry Schools was started to take control of the schools back from these four women, and not to hand it back to Williams, but to cooperatively work with all the stakeholders in the township to move our schools and students forward. We’ve yet to see anything forward come out of this board.

  36. 36 Tommytaxpayer May 8th, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    Let us hope that a)the hearing goes on as scheduled tomorrow (May 9), and b) TBPS is successful in their efforts to straighten this mess out in order that Dr. Williams can come back and do the job he has done so well!
    Gee, if everyone has success, maybe we can all get together and have a nice tenderloin dinner with some Cokes!
    All sarcasm aside, GOOD LUCK and thanks to all involved with the suit and their hard and much appreciated efforts. In closing, as usual,
    “God Help Us Perry Township Taxpayers!”

  37. 37 Admin May 8th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    FYI - The hearing for tomorrow has been postponed due to the actions of the school board last Thursday. Read the following post at the TBPS website: http://www.takebackperryschools.com/2007/05/08/tbps-hearing-scheduled-for-tomorrow/

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