Comments on: Business Friends, Gifts and Information http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/ An Online Forum for Voices to be Heard and Facts Understood Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:51:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: ken http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1165 ken Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:31:33 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1165 Teresa, I have read your post regarding business friends, gifts and information and could not agree with you more. Your business observation and analysis was right on! Our current board leadership lacks the ability to look at and analyze critical business information without some personal or emotional bias. As you stated, while this started out being about Dr. Williams, that issue has become the catalyst to much greater problems with these board members. After reading your posting, I was reminded of a recent article I read in The Indianapolis Star written about Gary Coons, the Perry Township Trusetee. In the article Mr. Coons makes a powerful statement regarding his position as an elected official. He states: "You have to be a good steward to the taxpayers, and you've got to be a good steward to your employees". By their actions, 4 members of the Perry Township School Board have shown that they do not posses the knowledge, foresight or willingness to be good elected stewards to the taxpayers they represent nor to the employees they serve. If you desire to have good stewards serve the taxpayers of Perry Township, please join the efforts to TAKE BACK PERRY SCHOOLS! Teresa,

I have read your post regarding business friends, gifts and information and could not agree with you more. Your business observation and analysis was right on! Our current board leadership lacks the ability to look at and analyze critical business information without some personal or emotional bias. As you stated, while this started out being about Dr. Williams, that issue has become the catalyst to much greater problems with these board members.

After reading your posting, I was reminded of a recent article I read in The Indianapolis Star written about Gary Coons, the Perry Township Trusetee. In the article Mr. Coons makes a powerful statement regarding his position as an elected official. He states: “You have to be a good steward to the taxpayers, and you’ve got to be a good steward to your employees”.

By their actions, 4 members of the Perry Township School Board have shown that they do not posses the knowledge, foresight or willingness to be good elected stewards to the taxpayers they represent nor to the employees they serve.

If you desire to have good stewards serve the taxpayers of Perry Township, please join the efforts to TAKE BACK PERRY SCHOOLS!

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By: Marcia Casey http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1168 Marcia Casey Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:52:40 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1168 Teresa, Your post is exactly what I have been wanting to say, but couldn't put into words! I hope you have sent this out to the newspapers and to the board members! Thank you for your elequent words! Teresa,
Your post is exactly what I have been wanting to say, but couldn’t put into words!
I hope you have sent this out to the newspapers and to the board members! Thank you for your elequent words!

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By: Georgia Ann Pitcher http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1170 Georgia Ann Pitcher Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:29:46 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1170 At the end of the day teachers will teach, children will learn, but the money spent irresponsibility to pay someone not to work and hire a 3rd attorney (no doubt at $250 an hour) cannot be replaced and must come from somewhere in the budget provided by every tax payer in Perry Township. At the end of the day teachers will teach, children will learn, but the money spent irresponsibility to pay someone not to work and hire a 3rd attorney (no doubt at $250 an hour) cannot be replaced and must come from somewhere in the budget provided by every tax payer in Perry Township.

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By: Go, Teresa! Go, Teresa! http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1175 Go, Teresa! Go, Teresa! Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:02:25 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1175 Great job of keeping us focused! Newcomers, take heed! These women are the sorts of destructive, imcompetent things that have happened to our schools while we as voters chose not to watch! Awful things happened to our PT schools in the 80's, and worse things are happening now! So, young parents, keep guard --always! I hope we aren't witnessing a cycle for our community! All of us must take advantage of being informed and then voting! Indeed, we are witnessing one of the very best examples of why. Great job of keeping us focused!

Newcomers, take heed! These women are the sorts of destructive, imcompetent things that have happened to our schools while we as voters chose not to watch!

Awful things happened to our PT schools in the 80’s, and worse things are happening now! So, young parents, keep guard –always! I hope we aren’t witnessing a cycle for our community!

All of us must take advantage of being informed and then voting! Indeed, we are witnessing one of the very best examples of why.

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By: Go, Teresa! Go, Teresa! http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1176 Go, Teresa! Go, Teresa! Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:05:07 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1176 Oh, yes! How about sending this post to all of the board members? How about as a letter to the ed. of the Star. Spotlight, and SS Times? How about Indy Forum at the Star? Oh, yes! How about sending this post to all of the board members? How about as a letter to the ed. of the Star. Spotlight, and SS Times? How about Indy Forum at the Star?

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By: Owen http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1233 Owen Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:50:38 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1233 Teresa, Very well written and to the point! I have friendly relationships with business associates, we may go to lunch or dinner or even to a Colts game. This is what business professionals do. I do not expect preferential treatment, but, I appreciate the opportunities available to me. I would never scheme, backstab, slander, or do anything unethical to gain an unfair business advantage. Mrs. Adams presented Mr. Bourgmann's contract extention to the board as a renewal of the existing contract and it passed 7-0. In reality it was a revised contract to removed Mr. Bourgmann as the board's attorney (this was not disclosed to Maple, Houchin, or Buffie until after the fact). Mrs. Adams submitted one name to the board for consideration as board attorney, Mr. Bailey. When Mr. Maple questioned Mrs. Adams if she were hiring Mr. Bailey to terminate Dr. Williams? Mrs. Adams dismissed that as a rumor! Mrs. Adams, Mrs. Walsh, Mrs. Alexander and Mrs. Thompson approve the hiring of Mr. Bailey. Mrs. Adams and Mrs Walsh met the very next day with Mr. Bailey to discuss the removal of Dr Williams as Superintendent. I can't help but wonder if Mrs. Adams or Mrs. Walsh had a prior relationship with Mr. Bailey, either friendly or professional. For a person to use their position of authority to remove a competent professional (Mr. Bourgmann), so they can hire someone with whom they have a prior relationship (Mr. Bailey), at nearly 3x's the salary, is what I would consider a conflict of interest, a breach of their elected position, and possibly having criminal implications. Teresa,

Very well written and to the point! I have friendly relationships with business associates, we may go to lunch or dinner or even to a Colts game. This is what business professionals do. I do not expect preferential treatment, but, I appreciate the opportunities available to me. I would never scheme, backstab, slander, or do anything unethical to gain an unfair business advantage.

Mrs. Adams presented Mr. Bourgmann’s contract extention to the board as a renewal of the existing contract and it passed 7-0. In reality it was a revised contract to removed Mr. Bourgmann as the board’s attorney (this was not disclosed to Maple, Houchin, or Buffie until after the fact). Mrs. Adams submitted one name to the board for consideration as board attorney, Mr. Bailey. When Mr. Maple questioned Mrs. Adams if she were hiring Mr. Bailey to terminate Dr. Williams? Mrs. Adams dismissed that as a rumor! Mrs. Adams, Mrs. Walsh, Mrs. Alexander and Mrs. Thompson approve the hiring of Mr. Bailey. Mrs. Adams and Mrs Walsh met the very next day with Mr. Bailey to discuss the removal of Dr Williams as Superintendent. I can’t help but wonder if Mrs. Adams or Mrs. Walsh had a prior relationship with Mr. Bailey, either friendly or professional. For a person to use their position of authority to remove a competent professional (Mr. Bourgmann), so they can hire someone with whom they have a prior relationship (Mr. Bailey), at nearly 3x’s the salary, is what I would consider a conflict of interest, a breach of their elected position, and possibly having criminal implications.

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By: NOT Impressed http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1238 NOT Impressed Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:05:40 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1238 [QUOTE] "Mrs. Adams presented Mr. Bourgmann’s contract extention to the board as a renewal of the existing contract and it passed 7-0. In reality it was a revised contract to removed Mr. Bourgmann as the board’s attorney (this was not disclosed to Maple, Houchin, or Buffie until after the fact)." [/QUOTE] According to the minutes, a copy of the revised contract was in the 'Friday' packet with no mention of the changes. What did not happen was any heads up about changes made to that contract. Apparently the 3 minority members did not read the contract because they didn't think they needed to. Comments were made about not reading the contract by Walsh and Alexander. Here's the details in the 10/23/06 minutes: "Mrs. Walsh commented that as Board Vice-President, she and Mrs. Adams met with Dr. Williams and one of the topics of discussion was what Lou Borgmann could offer the Board. She explained that Dr. Williams stated that school law was not Mr. Borgmann’s specialty and that it was within our rights to hire a Board attorney. She stated that it was at that time that Mr. Borgmann’s contract was redefined and she noted that each Board member was given a copy of the redefined contract with the August 14th Board meeting agenda. Mrs. Adams stated that Board discussions regarding such items as hiring an attorney must be done in a public meeting and that it is illegal to discuss them in an Executive Session. Mrs. Buffie commented that just as Mr. Oldham highlighted the changes to the Edison contract, the changes to Mr. Borgmann’s contract should have been presented to Board members prior to the August 14th Board vote. She added that in the future it is crucial that proper protocol be followed when a significant change is being voted on. Mrs. Adams assured her that future items would be handled differently. Mrs. Buffie stated that she has no issue with Mr. Bailey, but will choose to abstain from voting because of her previously stated issues. Mrs. Walsh and Mrs. Alexander commented that the necessary information was included in the Friday Packet and encouraged fellow Board members to inquire when questions arise." [QUOTE]
“Mrs. Adams presented Mr. Bourgmann’s contract extention to the board as a renewal of the existing contract and it passed 7-0. In reality it was a revised contract to removed Mr. Bourgmann as the board’s attorney (this was not disclosed to Maple, Houchin, or Buffie until after the fact).”
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According to the minutes, a copy of the revised contract was in the ‘Friday’ packet with no mention of the changes. What did not happen was any heads up about changes made to that contract. Apparently the 3 minority members did not read the contract because they didn’t think they needed to. Comments were made about not reading the contract by Walsh and Alexander.

Here’s the details in the 10/23/06 minutes:

“Mrs. Walsh commented that as Board Vice-President, she and Mrs. Adams met with Dr. Williams and one of the topics of discussion was what Lou Borgmann could offer the Board. She explained that Dr. Williams stated that school law was not Mr. Borgmann’s specialty and that it was within our rights to hire a Board attorney. She stated that it was at that time that Mr. Borgmann’s contract was redefined and she noted that each Board member was given a copy of the redefined contract with the August 14th Board meeting agenda. Mrs. Adams stated that Board discussions regarding such items as hiring an attorney must be done in a public meeting and that it is illegal to discuss them in an Executive Session. Mrs. Buffie commented that just as Mr. Oldham highlighted the changes to the Edison contract, the changes to Mr. Borgmann’s contract should have been presented to Board members prior to the August 14th Board vote. She added that in the future it is crucial that proper protocol be followed when a significant change is being voted on. Mrs. Adams assured her that future items would be handled differently. Mrs. Buffie stated that she has no issue with Mr. Bailey, but will choose to abstain from voting because of her previously stated issues. Mrs. Walsh and Mrs. Alexander commented that the necessary information was included in the Friday Packet and encouraged fellow Board members to inquire when questions arise.”

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By: Brian Oliver http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1242 Brian Oliver Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:31:42 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1242 Owen, I know Mr. Bailey has worked with the Decatur School Board in the past(I found this by searching on the net) and I find it kind of ironic that one of Susan Adams fellow members on the Decatur Change Team was a Nancy Bailey. Huh- wonder if they were related???? http://www.indiana.edu/~syschang/decatur/leadership_team04/index.html Owen, I know Mr. Bailey has worked with the Decatur School Board in the past(I found this by searching on the net) and I find it kind of ironic that one of Susan Adams fellow members on the Decatur Change Team was a Nancy Bailey. Huh-
wonder if they were related????

http://www.indiana.edu/~syschang/decatur/leadership_team04/index.html

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By: Brian Oliver http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1243 Brian Oliver Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:59:01 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1243 Let me clarify my last statement. I remember seeing something online about John Bailey doing something with the Decatur School Board. But now that I go back and try to specifically find it I can't, so you might want to strike that. Let me clarify my last statement. I remember seeing something online about John Bailey doing something with the Decatur School Board. But now that I go back and try to specifically find it I can’t, so you might want to strike that.

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By: Owen http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1246 Owen Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:03:37 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2007/02/18/business-friends-gifts-and-information/#comment-1246 August 14,2006 Board Meeting: RENEWAL OF SCHOOL DISTRICT ATTORNEY CONTRACT Dr. H. Douglas Williams, Superintendent, requested approval of renewal of a contract with Mr. Louis H. Borgmann to serve as the School District’s Attorney. Mrs. Houchin moved for approval of the contract. Mr. Maple seconded and the motion passed 7/0. A copy of the contract is included with these minutes. October 9, 2006: APPROVAL OF BOARD ATTORNEY Susan Adams, Board of Education President, explained that the Board does not presently have an attorney and asked Board members to approve the hiring of Attorney John Bailey for this role. Mrs. Walsh made a motion to approve Mr. Bailey and Mrs. Thompson seconded. Mrs. Houchin stated that it was her understanding that the Board members would be discussing the possibility of changing Board attorneys and that that meeting never took place. She added that because Mr. Lou Borgmann had been the attorney for number of years, she was opposed to the change. Mr. Maple commented that he disagreed with Mrs. Adams in that according to Mr. Borgmann’s contract, he feels the School Board currently has an attorney. He added that there is no doubt that Mr. Bailey is a good attorney, but given the fact that his fees will be a substantial amount of money, he feels it is an unwise move. Mrs. Buffie stated that the information regarding the renewing of Mr. Borgmann’s contract as the School District Attorney as opposed to the School Board Attorney was not properly communicated before the August 14 Board meeting. She asked for a discussion with the current Board members before making this decision. Mrs. Walsh asked Mrs. Adams that due to some of Mrs. Houchin’s concerns was there an urgency to approve an attorney. Mrs. Adams answered “yes” and then called for the vote. The motion failed by a 3/3/1 vote, with Mrs. Adams, Mrs. Alexander, and Mrs. Thompson voting in favor. Mrs. Buffie, Mrs. Houchin, and Mr. Maple voting against and Mrs. Walsh abstaining. Quote: "According to the minutes, a copy of the revised contract was in the ‘Friday’ packet with no mention of the changes. What did not happen was any heads up about changes made to that contract. Apparently the 3 minority members did not read the contract because they didn’t think they needed to. Comments were made about not reading the contract by Walsh and Alexander." Legal contracts can be tedious reading, Mrs. Adams presented Mr. Borgmann's rectified contract as a renewal of an existing contract without modifications, when she knew she had made alterations. Protocal indicates she should have mentioned there were changes to the other board members. Still I can’t help but wonder if Mrs. Adams or Mrs. Walsh had a prior relationship with Mr. Bailey, either friendly or professional. For a person to use their position of authority to remove a competent professional (Mr. Bourgmann), so they can hire someone with whom they have a prior relationship (Mr. Bailey), at nearly 3x’s the salary, is what I would consider a conflict of interest, a breach of their elected position, and possibly having criminal implications. August 14,2006 Board Meeting:

RENEWAL OF SCHOOL DISTRICT ATTORNEY CONTRACT
Dr. H. Douglas Williams, Superintendent, requested approval of renewal of a contract with Mr. Louis H. Borgmann to serve as the School District’s Attorney. Mrs. Houchin moved for approval of the contract. Mr. Maple seconded and the motion passed 7/0. A copy of the contract is included with these minutes.

October 9, 2006:

APPROVAL OF BOARD ATTORNEY
Susan Adams, Board of Education President, explained that the Board does not presently have an attorney and asked Board members to approve the hiring of Attorney John Bailey for this role. Mrs. Walsh made a motion to approve Mr. Bailey and Mrs. Thompson seconded. Mrs. Houchin stated that it was her understanding that the Board members would be discussing the possibility of changing Board attorneys and that that meeting never took place. She added that because Mr. Lou Borgmann had been the attorney for
number of years, she was opposed to the change. Mr. Maple commented that he disagreed with Mrs. Adams in that according to Mr. Borgmann’s contract, he feels the School Board currently has an attorney. He added that there is no doubt that Mr. Bailey is a good attorney, but given the fact that his fees will be a substantial amount of money, he feels it is an unwise move. Mrs. Buffie stated that the information regarding the renewing of Mr. Borgmann’s contract as the School District Attorney as opposed to the School Board Attorney was not properly communicated before the August 14 Board meeting. She asked for a discussion with the current Board members before making this decision. Mrs. Walsh asked Mrs. Adams that due to some of Mrs. Houchin’s concerns was there an urgency to approve an attorney. Mrs. Adams answered “yes” and then called for the vote. The motion failed by a 3/3/1 vote, with Mrs. Adams, Mrs. Alexander, and Mrs. Thompson voting in favor. Mrs. Buffie, Mrs. Houchin, and Mr. Maple voting against and Mrs. Walsh abstaining.

Quote:
“According to the minutes, a copy of the revised contract was in the ‘Friday’ packet with no mention of the changes. What did not happen was any heads up about changes made to that contract. Apparently the 3 minority members did not read the contract because they didn’t think they needed to. Comments were made about not reading the contract by Walsh and Alexander.”

Legal contracts can be tedious reading, Mrs. Adams presented Mr. Borgmann’s rectified contract as a renewal of an existing contract without modifications, when she knew she had made alterations. Protocal indicates she should have mentioned there were changes to the other board members.

Still I can’t help but wonder if Mrs. Adams or Mrs. Walsh had a prior relationship with Mr. Bailey, either friendly or professional. For a person to use their position of authority to remove a competent professional (Mr. Bourgmann), so they can hire someone with whom they have a prior relationship (Mr. Bailey), at nearly 3x’s the salary, is what I would consider a conflict of interest, a breach of their elected position, and possibly having criminal implications.

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