The teachers are very frustrated with this board.

Rather than accepting a resolution which would promote healing and resolution for Perry Township, both Mrs. Walsh and Mrs. Adams talked about things Dr. Williams allegedly said or did in the past. It seems that these two women fully expect grace, forgiveness and acceptance from teachers, parents and community members. However, they cannot offer the same measure of grace to anyone else. Remember, ladies, He offers grace and forgiveness to us in the same measure that we forgive others. He who is without sin. . . .

The majority’s slap-down of Mrs. Buffie’s resolution last night was all I could take. I left the meeting immediately after, and as I left I prayed for the children, teachers, parents and residents of Perry Township.

God uses everything for good, even things that are meant for bad. Despite the divisive actions of these misguided board members, Perry Township will rise above to reap a blessing in the end. Let us “stay the course,” remain strong and hang on for the blessing.

He works for the CHILDREN, and his responsibilities require him to implement the policies set by, as well as answer to, the board. He is not required, however, to stand at attention when they walk into the room.

I expressed the following on the Indy Star website:

To answer “in the asylum:”
“Unfortunately, it’s not that black and white. Of course, Dr. Williams does report to the board, and absolutely, they are responsible for making sure that the school system is spending the taxpayer’s dollars appropriately.
However, you must also use common sense and discretion when it comes to making such a controversial and drastic change within the administration. It is their responsibility to make sure that they are doing what’s best for the school system as a whole. These four board members did not go through the appropriate steps - mediation, public input, etc.- before making the decision to throw the teachers, students, parents and community into this turmoil. There doesn’t appear to be any evidence to support their claims that Dr. Williams has done anything serious enough to be released from his duties.

It is not the Superintendant’s job to ask “how high?” every time a board member says jump. It is the Superintendant’s job to implement the policies the board has approved, and NO board member should be making demands on him that distract from that. If you feel as though he’s not communicating properly, get some counseling. If he appears to have some indescretions on an expense report - don’t reimburse him for it and set some limits for the future.

It also the board’s responsibility to respect the advice and recommendations given by the Superintendant - he’s far more experienced than any board member will ever hope to be, no matter how long you serve on the board or what you do for a living. The fact that Dr. Williams has chosen to stay in Perry Township for longer than average should be appreciated. You don’t release someone who’s been dedicated to an organization through all of the good times and bad that PT has experienced since he signed on.
It sure sounds like child-like behavior when you hear “boohoo, he didn’t call me back right away” or “I want it right now and they aren’t dropping everything to make me happy” and “that’s not fair, they got steak and we got chicken.” Talk about it, work it out and get on with business.
The editorial is right - the students and teachers have been poorly served by this unnecessary and ongoing feud. It could have been avoided.”

Kudos to Mr. Nance, a teacher that my own daughter loved and admired, for standing up for and along with the teachers. I hope for all of you the quickest resolution to this as possible! Your job is hard enough without this going on…

I was also astonished to hear her basically tell us that we’re just supposed to take it. Tough luck, majority rules, that’s the way it goes. She lectured us about how she taught her daughters to respect adults and the majority. How she had been the lone minority vote on the board in many cases and she went along with whatever the majority ruled. That teachers should teach their children this same concept. Well, I AM a teacher and can tell you without hesitation that I will NEVER teach my children just to take it. I will teach them to fight when they see injustice and stand up for what is right.

Thomas Jefferson once said, “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” So, even though they will try to make us be quiet and try to silence this “so-called” minority, I hate to tell them, but I’m not going anywhere. And I certainly won’t go quietly.

“I find it hard to believe that Mr. Nichols has requested it as well as the rest of the “Gang of Four” and it is not being provided…which is where the additional attorney comes into play.”

Please explain this because I don’t get where the additional attorney is needed to get requested information.

Mr. Nichols is acting in the capacity of superintendent. He was an assistant superintendent prior to that. Why would he have not have access to the information?

What does Bill Brown and Terry Rice have to do with the requested information?

Another business observation! When you do a lot of business with a service provider, they send you gifts. It is their way of saying thank you. It is not to bribe. They will invite you to golf outings. Now, you are immediately labeled as “golf buddies.” I have attended golf outings and didn’t even like the way a person on my foursome behaved. However, every time that we were in a meeting that person greeted me as their golf buddy. It isn’t always as it appears.

It is amazing how you can take any statement and/or an act of kindness and twist it to make a person look bad.

I have personally requested information from both Terry Rice and Bill Brown. They didn’t ask my loyalties (which at the time I didn’t have any.) I told them I was trying to find facts. They gave me information that I requested which was public information. They had it ready in a matter of hours. They were both extremely professional and extremely concerned about Perry Township.

Now many people will say, well their just concerned about their jobs — look in the mirror — wouln’t you be concerned about your job if this was going on in your corporation.

Mr. Nance’s position is very rational. You can’t say one thing one meeting — look at how it came across before the next meeting — and then turn around and back track the next meeting. The 4 women are extremely unprofessional. They look like little girls trying to play house. They don’t know what they are doing and overexaggerate which further emphasizes their inexperience.

They pull out insignificant facts and throw them out. For example, Mrs. Walsh’s fact finding that Doug Williams played golf with a well respected firm in the building community. So, let’s go through the process again. The end result is it will delay the project and inconvenience the teachers and the students. Then, my prediction is at the end of the exercise, they will pick some immaterial item and switch firms and exaggerate their finding. In the process, they will give bad PR to the firm. All of this to support what they are doing.

Why didn’t Dr. Williams write a letter directly to the board? — Answer — his attorneys advised him not to. The letter that was read was written by his attorneys. If you are not familiar with the process, the attorney sends the letter to the client for review and approval of submission. It is a letter from Dr. Williams — it just has to be sent through his representave — his attorney.

In my opinion, the four women have just been advised from their attorney that they have no grounds to proceed with termination. The attorney has advised them that he can’t help. Now, they are going for a second opinion.

I would like for the women to have John Bailey speak for himself at the next school board meeting. I have personally observed Susan Adams taking information from a committee meeting and reporting it inaccurately. She was challenged on her report from Mr. Maples and Mr. Nichols agreed with Mr. Maples. So, what did John Bailey really advise? Let’s get his professional legal opinion straight from him.

Susan Adams stated that Dr. Williams had lost her trust. They have lost our trust, but unfortunately, we can’t put them on leave.

I find it amazing that all four of the women’s comments were praising teachers. Isn’t it ironic thay they are all on the “same page” and their closing comments were the same topic!

I urge all teachers, administrators, and orange people (of which I am one) to do the following: do not let them suck you in emotionally when they are acting so ridiculous. That is their game. They have had a life time of practice at being “drama queens.” I have done a lot of fact finding and questioning about the women. Many of their personal sources said that they have a history of this type of behavior. The majority of people that I have met in this process are not like nor act like they do. So, we react because we can’t believe the things that they say and do.

They look bad when they do it. However, if we get sucked in, we look bad, too. We are better than that. Warn new comers that it is easy to get sucked in by the ridiculous behavior.

I thought the speakers did an excellent job at the close of the meeting. They represented us well!!! Thank you for getting up and supporting the cause.

Ruby Alexander is wrong. This isn’t about Dr. Williams. It started out about Dr. Williams, but it has escalated into something far greater. We know that there are many people who can fill the role of superintendent. It is our right to think that we have the best superintendent for our school system — we are entitled to our opinion. It isn’t about one person. It is about stopping destructive behavior. We are Perry Township citizens. We have 4 women who have taken matters into their own hands. They are holidng our township schools hostage. They are preventing our business of education from functioning in what is already tough educational times. They threw out and continue to throw out peoples’ rights. They abuse their power and demean employees of the township. They continually report incorrect facts. They say one thing one meeting and then turn 180 degrees and say another thing the next meeting. They are so cowardly that they use technicalities to not listen to their citizens. So, orange people we have become — not by choice — not by want — but by desparation to TAKE BACK PERRY SCHOOLS.

Every time I see Dr. Williams smiling face on the main webpage for MSDPT I am reminded that we are winning and you are losing.

Compromise with tyranny is not a victory. We are in this to win. It will not be over until all four of the current school board majority are no longer serving and are replaced with honest caring thinking board members.

My other thought that is since those that support the board don’t want to think about or share the items that they believe Dr. Williams has done well and in doing so has benefitted this township, I’m not interested in investing the effort to do the same for them.

If I were presented with an opportunity like that, I’d be egging Nancy Walsh on as well.

How do those rose colored glasses fit?

Eventually you are going to at least attempt to see things from another perspective. No, you do not need to agree. You just need to hide your bias a bit more; otherwise, your very sincere expressions (as I have heard you attest to) are lost in a heap of demagoguery.

This is not a tit for tat or “he said, she said” debate. If you want to be taken seriously (as I have heard you attest to) you should avoid the expression of obvious prejudices. If you do not want to be taken seriously (as I suspect you really do not care) then by all means continue with the posts like your most recent ones on this forum.

As for me, I sure you care less about what I think than what I think about what you write. On this I am sure we can agree.

I wrote what I was told by a witness, your right as to the point that I personally did not witness this act. This witness was not a board member, nor was she a board member’s husband. This witness is completely on neither side. She barely knows whats going on with all this, therefore, I consider her to be a unbiased reliable witness.
I don’t expect, and your right, I don’t care if you like what I think or write. There are a lot of things that I read that I don’t agree with or don’t like yet I don’t go and put people down for it.

Again, Thank you for your information on your side on this matter, I will ask more questions and try to get any answers I can.
Do you feel that I am trying to stir the pot? As it has been suggested? I’m only giving information as I know it. Agreed, It is from the “other” side but I thought that is what we were doing here. I know I can be gruff, but I think it has been quit clear on who’s side everyone is on at this time. We agreed to fact find together and compare notes. I think we can agree that there are many issues that are involved with all of this. Maybe I should not of put my opinion on the comment above, but I was basing it on what I was told by this witness. And I have read other people’s opinion on this web-site so I didn’t know it was forbidden. I will try to refrain from doing it in the future.

If all you are doing is regurgitating what someone else tells you, I do not believe you are string the pot; however, I am not sure that this presents much value to the discourse.

This is what I witnessed with my own eyes. It is not second-hand information.