Okay, not directly but he did have this quote:
“The silent majority is as guilty as the person doing it.”
My wife and I thought that was a very pointed comment to our current situation.
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Hello there !
The quote makes perfect sense, to a degree. As with most quotes , it’s a surface thought ; stimulates the brain. With every situation there are many factors that need to be taken into consideration , as I’m sure we all understand.
Obviously, I cannot speak for everyone within the “silent majority” (of roughly 84,000 people
, but I can speak for myself , my household and others that have thrown their view my way. (I shall refer to the above as “We” 
Some of the “we” are of the opinion that they have already spoken via their Vote for the School Board members.
We are paying very close attention to this “situation” . We have also conducted our own “investigations”
But the general concern is in how each side is handling their position. We see nothing but chaos and disruption ; insults being thrown like weapons. What might have started out as legitimate concerns, on both sides, has been soiled beyond recogition and turned into a Circus. We see unfounded street gossip making its way to public forums. We see NO position being presented that would cause us to Rally together and jump on board , disrupting our own households/neighorhoods, for the greater good of our children .
We DO see how the School Board would want an investigation. Yet we also see how the other side would be discontented with their conduct.
From both sides , we see pompous arrogance and school yard behavior. (depending on the “who”)
We understand that most involved are nice, decent, people. But then so was Hitler, to those who held his beliefs.
That being said, we know that not every one is involved with the seedier behavior. But as with most things, those few sneaky rascals are putting a very bad light on this entire issue. And now, because of these few , our Township garbage has been thrown all over the City . And if thats not bad enough, the articles are severaly biased in nature ; nowhere near Professional. There is nothing GOOD for our community that will come of such a practice.
From what we see, it really HAS turned into a fiasco ; an undesireable impact on our community and our children.
Therefore, we choose to remain the “silent majority” , for now.
Have an Excellent Day !
DeAnn Curtis,
I, as a member of TBPS, do understand just how this “fiasco” looks to someone who isn’t directly involved. I admit to yelling and to talking to others about the 4 Board members. However, I ask you: What are we as a community to do when we have a totally “dysfunctional” school board? We cannot impeach or recall. We have no legal recourse, I am told. We have tried talking, pleading, reasoning, all in vain. Just what would you suggest we do? Just sit back and allow huge incompetence to run our schools?
We MUST return our schools to competence! Just how do you suggest that we do that? Perhaps if more folks like you would become knowledgeable about this incompetence by attending a board meeting to see for yourself, you would realize that the real problem is not our reactive behavior; instead the real problem is what makes reasonable, responsible folks sometimes loudly disagreeable. Perhaps if folks like you would have stood up with us in not tolerating incompetence on our board, this entire problem would be solved because larger numbers of the opposition would have created larger pressure thus causing the 4 to have resigned by now.
Additionally, we would not have had to go to the press for help.
We must do whatever we legally can to get those 4 off the board. The sooner the better because we have huge decisions to make concerning our schools. We can’t have these 4 making those decisions either.
We also cannot tolerate their belittling and humiliating school employees because where our children are involved, we want their environment to be as totally conducive to their learning as possible!
And the list of what we cannot tolerate goes on. Who was it who said, “We deserve what we tolerate”?
If you don’t like this situation, and believe me we do not either, do something about it rather than just sitting back and judging! Learn the facts. Then get involved!
Silence is what enabled Hitler to take over Germany (he was elected to his position). I think it is time for the silent majority to show their stuff. Stand with me to support our elected school board. Yes, like it or not, they were elected to this position of authority. Just like Chavez, Castro and that Iranian dude today. Elections matter. Please, we must not remain silent any longer. It is sending the wrong message. Others perceive us as weak.
Stand behind our elected school board and be counted!
I’ve got to admit, I’m totally confused. How in the world could someone in the United States think that comparing their leaders to Hitler, Chavez, Castro or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a good thing? Someone please explain this to me.
Hello there again !
Thats exactly what I’m talking about ; words mangled, misused, intention blurred. I didn’t post on here to engage in debate nor appear judgemental, but rather give an Outside perspective of a few included in the “silent majority” . Nothing more.
Allow me clarify the Hitler comment further. No comparison to Hitler was made. The comparison was made in regards to people saying someone is a nice person, as if it really means something.
I am a life long resident of Perry. Citing the Star , Perry Township is compared to IPS - low graduation rates , low test scores , declining property values and an exodus from the Township. Which side of this petty bickering plans to address these problems ? I still have 2 kids I want to graduate from this school system and neither side seems to care about the children.
Dale Curtis
Jason: please do not post my name with the following message. Instead, use “Shocked.”
I want to encourage ALL people who have not attended the recent school board meetings to stop taking sides based on rummors or third party interpretations and see for yourself what is happening. As a tax payer and a parent of MSDPT children, I have been concerned and was leaning in one direction based on information I have been hearing and reading, but I was still wondering if “the 4″ had some reasonable concerns and were just being taken the wrong way at times. Even though I was not happy with the way both sides seemed to behave at times, I am even more convinced that these ladies are very unprofessional in their approach and mannerisms and it is truley a “witch hunt.”
If there appeared to be legal recourse, then the TBPS side would not be so frustrated…I do understand better now why some of those members are so vocal. We do not have a “checks and balance” system in place for Indiana School Board Members, and these four knowing this, have really over-stepped their bounds…apparently not caring that their actions greatly appear to not represent the majority of parents, teachers, students and citizens of Perry who care enough about the future of our township to show-up at the board meetings to “see for themselves” what is happening. I am betting that these women know that they would not win another election to remain on the board, nor do they care. Their purpose for being there is personal and vindictive, and they seem to have a pact to stick together.
At least when we have a President of the US in office who seems to “go astray” from what the majority sees as right, we have a checks and balance system that allows bills to be turned around or for him to be impeached if need be! We don’t have this with these four, and it is scary to me that their actions seems to be leading them to bankrupt this school system. I have personally talked to others who are looking to purchase houses outside Perry to escape this mess. With all the embarrassing articles being published in the papers showing the ugliness and unprofessionalism of the meetings, who would want to move their family into Perry and put their children in such a school system? I have been very happy with the education my children have gotten…but where are we headed? And, if Dr. Williams is not reinstated, like they so GREATLY desire, what good candidate, in his/her right mind, want to come and try to work with these four???
If you claim to be in the “silent majority” or “on the fence,” I again, strongly encourage you to attend the next school board meeting and see for yourself what is happening. And, for heavens sake, let’s all carefully study our candidates running for school boards a lot more closely before voting for them! E-mail your state legislators to set-up some kind of checks and balance system so that members can be monitored for their actions, and not take a only a felony to remove them!
Indy Star — 1/26/2007
Matthew Tully stated,
“Welcome to another session of the Perry Township School Board — the city’s most dysfunctional government body.”
I personally know of a family that just bought a house outside of Perry Township that cited the school board as a major reason for selling. They didn’t want to take the chance on the four young children’s education suffering.
Hello there “Shocked” (and Jason
Yes, I had to reply to this.
I believe our entire community “cares” about the school system. We have people in our community who have to work at the time of the board meetings, who are sick, who have other commitments scheduled, who have several little ones to tend to, and yes even those who are involved elsewhere within the same school system during the time of the meetings. There are many reasons why people may not be able to attend school board meetings. Their lack of attendance in no way makes them less knowledgable of facts, if thats what they seek. But you could see about having an informative, unbiased bulletin written up after each meeting, just for those people, and see that they get it. (???) Just a thought.
It would have been nice had the candidates announced their intentions before they were voted in, but as far as I know, they did not (unless I missed it
. I don’t know that a careful study of candidates would have made a difference. We can only know what is available to know, as you know.
**Hello there School Board Apologist ! (I like that
I agree that those who hold the same ideals should band together. But weakness would be to choose a side even though you don’t agree with the view
Do you know if the board has made up any type of informative flyer or the like ?
**Hello there Aware ,but…..
Folks like me huh. Nice…..How do I suggest you do what you’re set out to do ? You could probably start with not personally attacking us middle ground posters
But how about a Petition ? Has one been started ? If you could get the majority of the Township, or in the least, the families of enrolled students, to sign on, do you think you’d have more board resignation leverage than you do now ? Just a thought. But it also seems that tempers are too high for communication. Too much “reaction”.
This needs resolved in the best interest of the Students. But nomatter how you cut it, we’re STILL a Community, and we can’t have all of this animosity towards one another over differences of perspective. Keep pitting neighbor against neighbor and we ALL lose.
Have A Great Night !
To Admin,
We are frequently reminded by William-ized et al that this school board is elected. Perhaps pointing to Hitler, Chavez, Castro and Ahmadinejad serves a purpose since they were also elected to their offices?
I am interested in how the Walsh-Thompson-Adams group likes this analogy. Maybe it is not being elected that is most important? Maybe it is how you govern after being elected that really matters?
DeAnn,
Thank you for your comments and giving us additional ideas for how we can better distribute information to the public. I wanted to comment real quickly about your idea for a petition. Honestly, we’ve found and been informed that a petition is basically useless as a resolution to action for this board. As many on the pro-board camp have stated, elections are over and these elected officials basically get to keep their seats unless they’ve committed a felony or they resign. The good news is one of the board members committed a class d felony on Monday night. Hopefully it will meet the requirements of giving us another avenue of action against the board’s current “majority” of four.
yeah your right “not the teacher” can not argue with elections. Next time if you all come together and that is certainly not bad.
Admn- Class D Felony? Ask the board member if they received a letter from Ms Walsh’s attorney yet? I do not think this will go anyplace soon.
Sometimes you show me you all are doing the right things and I get excited to see people caring about or community. Then, you try to pull something like this felony stuff. Just creates hard feeling sir. Deep hard feelings.
Hello Admin ,
Thank you for the info. But , in fairness, my reason behind posting should be made clear to avoid confusion. I am not Pro-Williams, nor do I side with “Take Back Perry Schools”. I am , however, still a Community Member . As is stated so often, every community member has a responsibility to speak out when they see something “wrong” , so I did. It is no ones job to berate another over difference of opinion ; it is the entire communities job to work together on finding a civil conclusion to the situation. Hence, the suggestions/comments.
Because of difference of opinion , beliefs, and perception of facts, each side should do all they can, in good form, to stand their ground. I would never say otherwise. But there is a third side here , the side I am on, the side that agrees that “the house needs cleaned every once in awhile”, that “change is good”, that “power has a way of getting out of control”, etc. etc. We’re not represented , but we will be there, if needed, broom in hand.
Thank you for this site .
Have An Excellent Day !
William-ized stated, “yeah your right “not the teacher” can not argue with elections.”
Why can one not argue with elections? Of course the results of a given election are certified after a period of time; however, the impact of the election on a given locality and the quality of government that is a result of the election should be argued frequently.
Please clarify your point.
If you are simply stating that the election resulted in certain individuals filling particular government posts and no one can express disapproval for how those individuals govern, you are wrong. Nevertheless, feel free to add a bit of substance to your trite remarks. Unlike those for which you advocate, opposing views are allowed and even welcomed here. You may feel free to advise the “Gang of Four” that this is normally seen as a positive thing in democracies.
An election does not end the electorate’s involvement in being governed. It is simply a milestone date in the ongoing process of the government listening to the people. It is the beginning of the government listening anew not the end of the electorate speaking.
I await your thoughtful response.
Dear DeAnn,
As a matter of fact, we agree with each other. We are members of a community who should work together for the betterment of our schools and our community. That is why I suggest that you attend the meetings to judge the facts for yourself, and then decide which direction you want to take.
I like change too, but change isn’t always good, as you well know. This change isn’t good at all, but you need to see for yourself because then you will never again say that you are on the side of change for change sake. The change you would witness is a huge violation of power by these 4 women! Getting rid of these 4 would be a good change for us all. If you were to attend the meeting to see for yourself, I think you would agree - most wholeheartedly.
I am not chastizing you in the least. I love differences of opinion - mostly when folks actually know the facts of a situation and can share different perspectives and ideas. That’s when real debate, solutions, and healing can take place. Goodness, we do need that healing!
But first, we need to fix our problem! We all know that. The 4 women on our board are the problem, and the only way to fix it is for them to go. They won’t moderate with Dr. Williams and they won’t even let us speak so they can know what we object to, nevermind moderate with us.
Oh, the petition? Over 600 SHS students signed a petition asking for the 4 women to resign and presented it to the board, and the 4 totally ignored it. There have been other petitions going around, even in some of the churches, but they too hold no power for recall or impeachment. These are the kinds of things I wish you already knew because you would know this is not an option. You would have to think of other ways to effect change on this board.
Perhaps this problem will be more personal to you when you are directly affected, or your children are. When that happens, my guess is that you will choose not to remain in the “change is good” lanes any longer. When we are directly affected, we then realize that standing up to wrong is what we must do and do it strongly! Sitting quietly and accepting what we get is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place!
In this sad case, it seems standing strong and tall is the only option we have.
“not the teacher” sometimes one “assumes” those who want to know what is going on in the township and our schools, that they might addend a meeting or two. Is this why over the past few years only a handful of people attend school board meetings. Not until a decision is made to change what has been going on, or someone’s toes have been stepped on, that peaks an interest. There wasn’t a crowd at the re-districting meeting, there wasn’t a crowd when the Supt wanted an $800,00.00 raise for the three administrators, there wasn’t a crowd when the public was concerned over “Rag-time”, there wasn’t a crowd until they wanted to sell Perry Park to the church.
You are a “johnny come lately”. Where was you when the candidates debated before the election?
“aware,but”
Read above!
Again, facts speak. You are just getting a few of them. You will get more I am sure. Should I say I “assume”. TBPS- hang around a couple years until election time, let us see what you are made of.
Hello Aware,but…
Thank you for your view and the information about the Petitions. And Yes, I am very relieved to know that we do agree on something
. But I have to wonder why the Petition’s were so limited (within some of the churches, the School, etc) . What I was referring to was a Community Wide Petition ; the knocking on doors , explaining the real problem as TBPS see’s it, presenting the Petition , etc. Although I have been offered a Sign a couple of times, I have not seen nor heard of any Petition . I’m afraid I fail to see the significance of a “localized” petition, but that’s just my opinion.
One thing we need to stop doing is falsly accusing and/or assuming that when there IS a difference of opinion, that the other person simply “doesn’t have all the facts”. It IS what it is : a difference of opinion based upon those facts. And by all means, this includes Petitions. If Petitions are not making it to those who Do Not agree with TBPS, then the Petitions are not a Fact to anyone other than those already in agreement, or involved with TBPS.
Board meeting minutes are located on MSDPT . Please explain to me what TBPS is trying to relate when they tell people they have to go to Board Meetings so they know something ? (or in other wording) Are we basing this on witnessing behavior from the Board ?
Speaking of that, “meetings” have always been an issue with this Township. Too much emphasis is placed on who attends and who doesn’t. Those who do not attend are typically treated as if they don’t know anything and/or don’t matter. This is a serious public relations problem.
William-ized,
I am still waiting for a thoughtful response to my most recent query. Repeating the same accusations over and over again does not qualify as thoughtful. Thank heavens you have not won any elections. You might actually be worse than Adams and Thompson.
I have spent many hours in the hallways of various MSD Perry Township school buildings over the past 6 years. I have been to more than a few board meetings. I have watched a few board meetings that were recorded on video tape or copied to a computer hard drive. I attended the last few board member discussions at Southport Middle School prior to each of the last few elections. I have attended each of the last five Back to School Nights at the school my child attended. I attend both regularly scheduled parent-teacher conferences and the impromptu ones scheduled as needed throughout the school year. I am always at the IEP conference for my child at the end of the school year and at the beginning of the next school year.
Anyone that knows me is aware that I am an involved father. I believe that I have meet and personally talked with every teacher, guidance counselor, resource teacher, special ed aide, principal and assistant principal from each of the schools that my child has attended in MSD Perry Township.
By any stretch of the imagination I cannot see that I qualify as a “johnny come lately”. If you must resort to false labels, at least show some creativity. Arrogant from Renee was a label applied with at least some honesty and accuracy.
Michael Taylor (not the teacher at SHS), you seem to be more of a pain in the butt more than anything.
I am betting your kids go to an Edison school and most likely Rosa Parks. This assumption is based soley on my observations and readings of your writings.
You exhibit the qualities I would expect from them. Not just the good ones, yes there are some good qualities but also bad ones. Being involved is good, over involved is a pain.
I just don’t understand why some that post here just don’t send their kids to private school or move. For many, they could not imagine their child going to any Elementary school in PT that wasn’t Edison.
It makes you feel good. It makes you feel better. If those feelings and emotions are challenged then you lash out at the person who disagrees.
Center Grove for years always looked down their nose at PT. They thought they were better just because of where they lived and what school they went to. Perry Meridian has always looked down at Southport. I know what I am talking about, I have been around here for a very long time.
Grow up or move, all of you. Please!
DeAnn,
You asked a question, so please do not take offense to my answer. I mean no disrespect, but there is a huge difference between attending a board meeting and reading the minutes.
Since I’m a nurse, I will use a medical analogy. You may read in the paper, a birth announcement, that so-and-so had a baby girl. What the paper does not tell you is that the mother developed pulmonary emboli (blood clots in her lungs), and was transferred to CCU with this life-threatening condition. Her baby was taken to Neonatal ICU, is on a ventilator, and not doing well. According to the paper, nothing seems wrong, when in reality, they both may die.
While the board meeting minutes do describe SOME of the tensions present at the meetings, they don’t begin to tell the whole story. First of all, the minutes do not include any of the public comments, nor do they include the board’s responses. The minutes do not include the unprofessional, rude behavior of the board majority, including whispering, nail tapping, eye rolling, note passing, interrupting, and simply not listening…even to fellow board members. The behavior is so completely childish that you just can’t imagine it until you see it. The minute meetings do not describe how Mrs. Adams passes out agenda AT the meetings to her fellow board members rather than in the Friday packets. Not only is this against board policy, it does not allow the fellow board members to prepare any type of response or collect data to substantiate their rebuttle. The minute meetings will not include how Mrs. Walsh walked up to a seated Mrs. Houchin, her fellow board member, and started a verbal altercation, including threatening to slap her in the face. You would have to be present to see how Mrs. Adams taunts and mocks the audience like an adolescent. You’d have to be present to feel the darts Mrs. Walsh was shooting as she accused the entire audience of being guilty of “Abusing” her son because he was called to the office and questioned regarding something he had put on the internet. (Please keep in mind that the schools are now getting more involved in what students post on the internet because of incidences involving schools shootings and threats to students’ safety.)
Unfortunately, a community-wide petition would do no good. There are no checks and balances within the local government. The only thing a petition would do is tell the board that the public is unhappy with their actions. However, the board majority is well aware that the public is unhappy, and they have made it clear that they are not interested in anything the public has to say.
We ALL have busy lives, jobs, children, homework, activities, etc…and attending meetings is an inconvenience. But I assure you that it would take attending only ONE board meeting to see what everyone is trying to say. The board majority has their own agenda, and they clearly are making no attempts to represent the public. Again, I mean no disrespect to you. You would just have to be present to really fully know what is going on, and I invite you to attend the meeting on February 12th at 6:30pm at the Southport High School auditorium.
Hello Kelly,
I would like to sincerely Thank You for taking the time to answer my question. So, basically, yes , it is “based upon witnessing the behavior from the board” .
There is no way to tell if the public, in general, is unhappy with the board or not ; they’re not talking.
Unless , of course, I’ve missed something.
But you, Shocked and Aware, but.. are correct. The Live Behavior of all involved is the one aspect of this situation that I have not delved into at any depth. I plan to attend this next meeting. Thank you all again for your input and views.
Once again Even More Confused is living up to their moniker,
I am not a fan of Edison Schools Inc. Never have been and never will be. Anyone that has worked with me closely knows this. I have some specific reasons for my opinion in this regard. They have a basis in my personal opinion and philosophy on public education. For me it has to do with pedagogy. My opinions have nothing to do with a belief in some nefarious plot to reward the “favorites” of the superintendent.
I think it is clear that the strengths of Jeremiah Gray Elementary and Rosa Parks Elementary are the MSDPT teachers, MSDPT parents, MSDPT teacher’s union and MSDPT administration. They are good schools because of us not because of anything from Edison Schools Inc in New York City.
My child has never attended an Edison School and, if I had it to do all over again, my child would not attend an Edison School. I have been involved with Douglas MacArthur, Perry Middle and now Perry High. I applaud families that choose to place their children at one of our Edison schools. I am glad that they have this choice. I would like to see some solid academic studies initiated in order to provide some data on the efficacy of our Edison schools. I am sure this will occur prior to the next contract renewal.
At any rate you lose your bet. You are wrong. You should stop painting with such a broad brush. It would also be beneficial if you stopped labeling others so that you avoid any real dialog. Your confusion is self induced.
The opposition to the “Gang of Four” and the support for Dr. Williams is not as monolithic as you suppose. There is considerable diversity in our reasons and motivations for involvement. This is why it is inevitable that Adams, Walsh and Thompson are one term board members and why you are losing the battle for the hearts and minds of the denizens of Perry Township.
Whatever!!!
You are so right, keep it up.
How much time do you spend on this issue? How much time do you spend writing responses on this website? You must not have other things to do.
What you are doing is not being involved in Perry Township. Are all your kids moved out of the house now? If not, why not spend more time with them or some other children in Perry Township doing something constructive. The only constructive thing you do is build yourself up and stroke your own ego.
WOW, you are awesome.
not the teacher - I don’t know what you were doing in the hallways but by your responses, it sure isn’t understanding what is going on in the township. I think most of what I have told you all is truth and has been proven by Mrs Adams website. The statement of the low attended meetings is factual and just to make things a little more clearer, you only see what you want to see. That is about a clear as you can get.
Dear DeAnn,
So glad you are planning to attend a meeting! I must say that Kelly took the words right from my mouth in her response to you. She is SO correct!
As you observe your fellow citizens at that meeting, please keep in mind that we have been “at this” since Oct. We will continue until we effect a change in the majority. Our frustration level is very high; however, folks were certainly most civil and even very nice during the public comments time at the last meeting. Of course, the gang of 4 wasn’t there.
We are nice folks who just want the best for our children and this community, and we have no legal recourse to help us.
My dearest Smack That,
I spent maybe 15 minutes on the post you reference, yes I have plenty of things to do with my time and my child is still at Perry High. Not sure what your point is. I was just answering an allegation by your alter ego. When you paint with a brush that is too broad, you should expect to get knocked down a notch or two. Perhaps more moderation in your statements could prevent this from happening in the future.
The destruction of our school district is a grave concern of mine. This is not imminent; however, when due process is ignored by our elected leaders, we are weakening the foundation on which our community and its school system are built. We are setting a precedent that will, if left unchallenged, lead to the destruction of the public school system in Perry Township.
This is not a match of one-upmanship and this is not the time to play Machiavellian games. Our children’s education is at stake. The actions of the school board majority are inexcusable and unsupportable. They cannot be tolerated. I have no apologies for my stance against them and I have no guilt as to my involvement with my son.
Hello Aware, but…
“Behavior” , from the Board and/or my “fellow citizens”, leads us right back into my original post. My opinion on it has not changed.:-)
The Township School System for those of you who think it is about to collapse in still in great shape. For those who think one man leaving can bring it down certainly does not know the Township Structure nor the strength of our citizens. This is not the second coming, our teachers are good, our administration is solid, our kids believe it or not learn everyday. The system runs very good. With the Supt leaving you will find it will be very calm and the board meetings will be productive. Our acting Supt knows what he is doing and our administration, bus drivers, contrated labor all know their jobs. And believe it or not, our School Board members and all super class individuals whom care about this township.
The sky is falling is not the theme of our township.
I will limit my words this time in hopes that William-ized can comprehend the point I am making.
“…when due process is ignored by our elected leaders, we are weakening the foundation on which our community and its school system are built.”
Very simple. Allow for due process.
Huh? Due process is not due to anyone. Due process is the next election!
Hello Michael Taylor (not the teacher at SHS)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but its my understanding that Due Process is not applicable when putting an employee on paid leave pending an investigation into allegations ; that Due Process comes into play in the event of Termination. (??)
William-ized!
Are you kidding me? Did you actually say “our acting superintendent knows what he is doing”? Really? You really believe that? I am amazed at those who are showing such great support for him. Dennis Nichols is NOT the man for this job. I believe he thinks Dr. Williams is the man for this job, as a matter of fact, those words came from his own mouth. He knows this is all wrong! He knows he’s not cut out for this position, yet he continues to “do” this job? Why? Maybe because he’s scared of the “gang of four”?
He’s not doing his job. Don’t believe me? Ask every teacher in MSDPT how many times he’s been in their school, ask how many times he’s returned phone calls to them and yes, this is not a big deal, but he didn’t even send out a Christmas greeting. In the almost 3 months he’s been sitting pretty, what in the way of education has he brought to the table? So what, he has a committee–what’s that going to accomplish without a well trained and fully capibable superintendent? NOTHING!
hey you have 700 people taking shot at him… he is doing a great job considering.. he is a good man.. has this township at heart.
I have known Dennis Nichols for more than 6 years and have even been to his house on a few occasions. He is a good man. Caring, dedicated, compassionate and organized are words that come to mind in describing him. He has taken on the mantle of leadership in a very diffcult situation and deserves credit for stepping up to the plate.
I wish he could have become a superintendent under other circumstances. The current school board majority could learn a thing or two from Mr. Nichols. He listens.
And ” are you kidding me” he is doing HIS job along with the “acting Supt job”
William-ized stated, “hey you have 700 people taking shot at him.”
This is not true. Either retract your statement with an apology or accept the fact that you misrepresent information (lie and/or exaggerate to make a point).
You could provide proof, but I am sure you would say, “It will be coming out soon.”
Michael-Taylor-Not-The-Teacher: You are no longer working in the township. Yes, your child may attend MSDPT schools, but your former job was not one that truly got you into the classrooms. You may have been in the halls occasionally, but you are unfairly setting yourself up as an expert on things that you were not involved in, in your job. Please drop the high-horse, looking-down-your-nose attitude. Those of us who are truly in the trenches everyday are digging through your diatribes to get the real info on this website. Please put your energy and your efforts into your new job, sir.
I am a parent and will relate the experiences I have had with Perry Township Schools. I am very happy with the education my child has received in this school district. I believe the teachers in our school district are excellent and I will express this often. I do not believe teachers receive enough credit for all that they do. This is especially true of the special ed faculty and support staff.
Not exactly sure why you have a problem with a parent expressing satisfaction with the quality of education their child receives in our school district. Surely you are not insinuating that only teachers can express themselves on this forum? I have chosen to respond to accusations that others have made in regard to my motivations and/or experiences with Perry Township Schools. This has lead to some verbose posting, but I was only trying to be comprehensive in my answers. I appreciate your critique and will take it into consideration with future postings.
How in the world did you figure out who I really am? Could it have something to due with me posting comments under my real name? You will have to admit, I did make it rather easy for you.
To DeAnn,
I am a member of TBPS, and I know of no petition whatsoever sponsored by this group. I’m sorry I didn’t understand that you thought the petitions I referred to were TBPS. They are not and were not. I think that once we saw that the board totally dismissed the SHS students’ petition, we thought we would take another route or two. I don’t know who sponsored the other petitions that circulated in the churches, etc. I just know of people who signed them.
Also, the importance of going to a board meeting is that anyone’s just telling you what goes on there is just not an adequate portrayal of the atmosphere, the facial gestures, the body language, the preaching, the Savior complex at work, the tones of the words, the arrogance, and the total disregard of what the public is asking of this board. It’s one of those “You have to see it to believe it” things. Almost all folks who do attend come away saying they feel the same way. Rational folks have a difficult time witnessing the incompetence and arrogance attitudes that are running our schools!
Speaking of that, maybe I can give you an illustration. Susan Adams has been on the board for 2 years and 8 months. She wanted to be president and she is. Never in all that time has she taken the time to learn how to do a simple thing like run a meeting correctly. I understand not knowing, but in over 2 years, she has had plenty of time to learn, but she has obvioulsy chosen not to do so. I think that lack of desire to simply run a meeting correctly speaks to her desire to learn facts and do carry out other board-member responsibilities correctly. At least it surely makes me wonder.
Citizens who don’t attend meetings can surely know the content of what’s going on, of course. However, in order to understand the complete picture here, one must really see for himself. To quote a friend who attended her first meeting, “This is better than reality TV!” Goodness knows it shouldn’t be!
Sorry for the confusion.
I am not realted to Nancy, thank God
There are so many posts that make no sense but I wanted to reply to the man who said we should send our kids to private schools if we did not like what is going on.
As a new move in with two young sons and being Catholic, I am thinking about doing just that. However, that still does not stop the fact that my wife and I will still have to pay taxes to support a school system that is about to be burned to to ground between two factions.
I have no idea what Dr. Williams did, and I do not know him from Adam, but if the “Gang of Four” had something substantial and real enough to fire him, they would have. I feel hiring this new attorney and his assistant at $300-$400 and hour is a sham.
These “ladies” brought this on, now finish it. It looks like to me that they are a bunch of [Edited by Admin] girls and Dr. Williams wasnt one to be messed with by a gaggle of women who got their undergarments in a bunch.
STOP WASTING TIME AND MONEY AND MAKE A CHOICE!!!!!!!!!
William Walsh,
Well said. If you live in Perry Township and have kids in public school, private school or no kids at all you will feel the affects of what these 4 board members are doing…..WAISTING OUR EDUCATIONAL TAX DOLLARS!!!!!!
You are also correct in your personnel analysis. If you can fire someone, you do. If you can’t, you build a case. If you can’t build a case you go fishing. Isn’t it nice that these 4 board members are fishing with a yacht and not a john boat?? Let’s see, after we bought a yacht, we decided to furnish it with expensive accessories.
I wonder what the money could be used for if they decided to spend it in the classrooms of Perry Township and not on employing attorneys, investigators and assistants????