Results of Meeting with Nancy Walsh

Anthony Karushis met with Nancy Walsh recently to discuss his concerns and many of our own. He’s provided me the following summary of his meeting and has agreed to allow me to post it on this site.

I met with Nancy Walsh last Friday for three hours. That’s a lot of information to digest. I will say that the meeting didn’t change my mind, but it did make me think a little bit and I hope it made her think a little bit also. I appreciate her time and willingness to share.

When I asked her about why the current actions have taken place. She gave me her reasons for pursuing this course of action, but I’m not sure about the rest of the board. Her reasons deal with the superintendent not willingly sharing necessary information and making it a difficult work environment. There is much more to it than that, but it is difficult to relay all that information. She gave me quite a few examples. When I asked if it had to do with any of the hot topic statistics out there right now (graduation rates, ISTEP scores, etc.), she said not really. She said that she doesn’t have, and hopes not to find, any evidence of illegal actions on his part. She wouldn’t speak for the other people, but she pointed out that she is probably the swing vote and the six other board members have pretty much decided how they will vote.

When I asked about what comes next, I was pleased with her response. She believes we need to “take baby steps” here. There is much bickering and fighting among the board members and they need to resolve their differences first. So, I asked her what comes after that. Is there any way to stop them from continuing their course to remove the superintendent? Will they consider mediation with the superintendent then? She was not opposed to this. She stated she is trying to keep an open mind. She also pointed out that keeping an open mind and keeping your emotions in check is difficult with the way people have been acting lately. I did point out to her that BOTH sides have gotten to emotional lately and this has been counterproductive.

I pointed out that the public perception of her and the rest of the board members is not necessarily what they see themselves. I gave her examples of some of the things she has said and what we thought they meant. She seemed surprised that some of her comments came across different than she intended. One example is the, I’ll resign if you resign comment. I told her this sounded like her entire purpose was to get him to resign. Once that was completed she didn’t need to be there any longer. She was shocked. Her intended purpose was to point out that this whole issue was bigger than either one of them. It is bigger than any one person. Hopefully, she heard what I had to say and will think a little bit before she speaks now.

I asked her if she truly believes that she is representing the majority opinion. She believes she is. I used some numbers and statistics to try to point out to her that I disagreed, but I don’t believe that swayed her opinion. I believe after talking to her, she firmly believes she is doing what is best for the entire school community. Hopefully, she will try to keep an open mind and constantly reassess the situation.

I will say again that I am very appreciative of her time (three hours on a Friday evening) and her willingness to share some of the information. I wish I had thought to ask a few questions that I didn’t ask at the time, but there was so much to digest I missed a few things. I believe I now understand why she has done some of the things she has done. While I don’t necessarily agree with her, I now see her perspective.

I would suggest to everyone that you try to remain calm when addressing the issues at hand. The reason she decided to contact me was that my letters to her were respectful and constructive. I apparently had shown that I was willing to find out as much information as possible. I pointed out to her and I will point out to everyone else that this is exactly what we need. All of us need find out as much information as possible without being disrespectful of each other.

Thank you Anthony for working out this meeting with Nancy Walsh and sharing the results.

32 Responses to “Results of Meeting with Nancy Walsh”


  1. 1 Amy Stinson Jan 9th, 2007 at 11:29 am

    [quote] Her reasons deal with the superintendent not willingly sharing necessary information and making it a difficult work environment.[/quote]

    While it is absolutely the role of the board to supervise the superintendent, that supervision takes place through policy and procedure and is done through the board as a single unit and not by individual board members. Her making requests outside the structure of the board was probably perceived as out of line by the superintendent.

    Mrs. Walsh’s sincerity is no doubt real. Sincerity, no matter how real, does not substitute for an accurate understanding of her role as a board member and her ability to function as one part of a seven member unit.

  2. 2 Anthony Karushis Jan 9th, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Please be aware that the wording in this article is mine unless I put quotes around it. I paraphraased a lot of things and tried to summarize. Please be careful not to take my wording as direct quotes. Remeber playing the telephone game as kids? It may only change slightly, but it does change from one person to the next. I just don’t want anyone to think these are someone else’s words. They are mine.

  3. 3 Admin Jan 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pm

    Thank you Anthony for clarifying that information.

  4. 4 Michael Taylor Jan 9th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Anthony,

    Thank you for taking the initiative to converse with Ms. Walsh. Your summary provides a positive sign that open honest communication between a member of the board majority and a resident of the community is achievable. Your post will serve as one of the bright spots of my day (especially since my beloved Buckeyes had their tails whipped last night).

    Your initiative and the spirit with which it is presented are greatly appreciated.

    Thank you again,

    Michael Taylor

  5. 5 Dave Jan 9th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    I believe that Mrs. Walsh has an overly inflated opinion of herself. If she, indeed, said that she was the swing vote and if we are all correct in thinking that she is orchestrating this fiasco, then that makes her the “Queen Bee”, doesn’t it?

    She should quit pontificating like she is the spokesperson for 90,000 Perry Township residents and start reading the Board Policies and By-laws so she can become a competent and responsible school board member.

  6. 6 Admin Jan 9th, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Michael, not to get too off topic here, but since you brought it up. What happened to the Buckeyes? I went to school just north of Columbus so become somewhat of a fan and my brother is a huge fan. Looks like 50 days off between games is just way too much.

  7. 7 Marie Chauvette Jan 10th, 2007 at 8:50 am

    I really appreciate reading the candid interview with Mrs. Walsh. I also apprciate Mrs.’s Walsh’s comments and concerns. Whether or not Mrs. Walsh is a ’swing vote’ of the board or not, it does not excuse, nor represent, the concerns of a whole district reguarding student education. EDUCATION IS THE PRIORITY: NOT CONFLICTS AMONG BOARD MEMBERS! Indeed, personal opinions and conflicts have come before child education in this case. Children still listen, learn, act, play, and enjoy the schools they interact in/with. I feel that, as adults, board members, parents, and teachers, we have lost site of the the TRUE GOAL: EDUCATION OF CHILDREN!

    However, the accusations of ‘hostile work environments,’mentioned in the interview, should be examined. Indeed, they must be proven with adequate documentation, peer review evaluation, personal interviews, and professional assessment. Furthermore, it is important to examine programs, policies, and procedures developed to solve the ‘hostile work environment’ problem. If there are none, than no one can promote better EDUCATION OF CHILDREN!

    Perry Township Schools exhibit positive performance in education, and educational standards. If ‘hostile work environments’ exist, it is the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ADULTS, PARENTS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND BOARD MEMBERS to solve these problems. These problems SHOULD NOT AND CAN NOT COME AT THE STUDENTS’ EXPENCE! Removing Dr. Williams, who just got a raise this summer for positive performance results, is NOT THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM!

    Problems are often multidementional. Many times, there is not one single cause of discourse. If Mrs. Walsh thinks there exists a ‘hostile work environment,’ or one cause for discourse, I ask her to think again.

    I know a little bit about ‘hostile work envirnments.’

    Try being a Critical Care Nurse, sometime, Mrs Walsh, (and all of you!)

    I dare you!!!! Marie Chauvette

  8. 8 Take great care! Jan 10th, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    Please, everyone, don’t take anything Nancy Walsh says too seriously! She lies again and again - did it again Mon. night when she led the public to believe the entire board hired John Bailey. The fact that 3 of the board members knew nothing at all about that hiring is already public knowledge unveiled some time ago at a board meeting. She manipulates truth to suit getting what she wants, and I truly believe she will use anyone in the process. You might not think she is this way because she presents herself as a quiet-spoken, smiling, harmless little woman who loves children and the Lord.

    Be careful!
    1. She curses at, yells at, and calls teachers names when they
    won’t do what she asks for for her children.
    2. She retaliates with vengeance when you say or do something she
    doesn’t like - example, Doug Williams, who told her not to
    micromanage the schools, and she tried to fire him
    3. She baits folks, uses them, and she humiliates folks at public
    board meetings!
    4. She prohibits
    a. input from the public,
    b. using anyone’s name - even just as reference - in our
    remark
    c. addressing the board members individually;
    5. She supports
    the 2-minute time restraint and for the removal of us citizens by armed guards!

    Sound like a cooperative, wanting-to-do-the-right-thing gal? We might hear the right words and see that warm smile, but don’t be fooled! Watch, instead, her actions! Then you’ll get the real take on Nancy Walsh! Don’t let her fool you!

  9. 9 Anonymous Jan 10th, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    This serves as an excellent example of how two people who disagree can still get along! I admire you, Anthony, for meeting with Mrs. Walsh. If all of Dr. Williams’ supporters (and those against him) were like you and Michael Taylor, who responded to this post, I suspect that many of our problems would disappear.

    One respone upset me, however. I think that Dave pointed out a crucial flaw in the thinking of many Perry Township residents. He said, “..if we are all correct in thinking that she [Nancy Walsh] is orchestrating this fiasco…” I think that this is the crucial problem–Mrs. Walsh in particular is taking the most heat for this whole ordeal, and she did NOT orchestrate this. I imagine that she is labeled as the troublemaker because she is the one who was most often on the news/in the paper, but I admire her for being so willing to be the one who goes public with information. Let’s stop pointing fingers and getting back to what it’s really about–the students!

  10. 10 Dave Jan 10th, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    I think a good sign that she orchestrated this fiasco is the fact she took it upon herself to meet, by herself, with Dr. Williams right before Christmas. She then used that meeting to make her “tear filled” statement at the Board meeting on December 18th. That “tear filled” statement was suppose to be her public reasons why she supported placing Dr. Williams on administrative leave for the purpose of pursuing his termination.

    If you would go back to her tirade and read it very closely, she said absolutely nothing and gave no concrete facts on why Dr. Williams should be fired. I guess in her mind her most compelling reason is because her children are not being treated fairly by the faculty. Is that Dr. William’s fault.

    Lastly, I would love to hear Dr. Williams version of his meeting with Mrs. Walsh and see if it matches up with her version. I doubt it does.

    Finally, I believe “Take Great Care” portrays the real Nancy Walsh.

  11. 11 Michael Taylor Jan 10th, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    We must applaud Anthony for his efforts, the spirit with which he carried them out and the fact that he shared them on this forum.

    Perhaps a quote from Ronald Reagan is appropriate for this occasion, “Trust, but verify.” Maybe this is some light at the end of the tunnel. I am just hoping it is not an oncoming train.

    No delusions here, just the reality that a settlement to this mess must be reached eventually. I am hoping it does not take until the 2010 election. If there is any possibility of it happening sooner, individuals like Anthony need to take some initiative, stick their necks out and dialog. Yes, it will take diplomats to bring about a resolution. I venture to say that the TBPS crowd has considerably more diplomats than the “Silence the Majority” crowd.

    Of course I don’t consider myself a diplomat. Not that anyone had any thoughts in that regard. Veritas must have its proponents.

    Once again, thank you Anthony.

  12. 12 Anonymous Jan 10th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    I am on the board’s side, but why is Mrs. Walsh being pinpointed for not giving out facts? All I hear Dr. Williams’ supporters saying is that no one has given them any information. This is just an attempt at making her the scapegoat!

    I would also be interested in hearing Dr. Williams’ story about their meeting. I was under the impression that supporters on both sides were encouraged by this meeting because it showed a willingness to work together. There may have been no positive solution that came from it, but I don’t think that Mrs. Walsh “took it upon herself” in an arrogant way to have a meeting with him. It makes sense for her to be the one to do it, after all, because she has been painted as the one who has controlled this whole problem. It probably would not have made as much sense if soft spoken Barbara Thompson had held a meeting with him.

  13. 13 Dave Jan 11th, 2007 at 7:50 am

    Why did she meet with Dr. Williams? I am convinced it was a grandstand play by her. Have you not seen her in action at the Board meetings? “Grandstand Nancy” should be her nickname. I also believe she met with Dr. Williams to trap him into saying something that could cause his eventual termination. The “Gang of Four” are in a bind because they placed Dr. Williams on leave for very personal reasons but also with the thought that they could dig into his past and find something on which to fire him. My guess is after digging they have found nothing. So, she has to have a meeting in order to set him up. Conspiracy theory? Call it what you wish. I bet I’m not too far off.

  14. 14 Agree with Take Great Care Jan 11th, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    Please do be very careful. Nancy had problems when she was on the PTA board at an elementary school and she talks a good talk, but be very careful as to how much you believe… Watch your back.

  15. 15 Give it Up Jan 11th, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    To Take Great Care, DAVE and Agree with Take Great Care,

    I have had the opportunity to work with Nancy Walsh on many occations over the past 10 years here in Perry Township. I have worked with her in the PTA arena as well as spending many hours on different Charity functions. I have to say that I have NEVER experienced ANY of the issues that you people are stating in your post here.

    It makes me sick to my stomach when I read a post such as the one above from “Take Great Care”. For you to have taken the extra time to actually number your Nancy Walsh “issues” makes me wonder. Again, I read these numbered statements as your “Opinion” NOT verified “Facts” as I do hope others will also.

    It’s amazing that so many of you want Nancy Walsh to “act” a certain way but yet you want to literally attack her. You know as well as I do, “she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t” at this point.

    Just out of curiosity “Take Great Care” would Nancy Walsh know who you were if you knocked on her door today or were all of your numbered issues just what your neighbor may have told you?

  16. 16 Take great care! Jan 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    Dear Give It Up,

    You must be her mother, the copious notetaker, or the gray-haired lady seen to be stealing TBPS yard signs because you are so blind!
    Yes, Mrs. Walsh knows me, but I know her much better than she knows me. What I stated about her actions is true! She has shown every one of those awful characteristics at the Board meetings. If you haven’t been there, you need to go to see for yourself. If you have been there and still say what you did in your posting, then you really are one of the 3 people I mentioned previously because you are so blinded by or just unable to see by her deceptions, distortions, and manipulations.
    Again, watch what she does, not just what she says. I hope you will open your eyes to her. Worse yet is that she attaches herself to the Lord and doing His work. Figure that one out!

  17. 17 Give it up Jan 12th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    Dear Take Great Care,

    I have attended every single meeting since October……and no, I’m not Nancy Walsh’s Mother, but I appreciate the compliment just the same. As far as being the gray haired lady stealing the signs……no, sorry that isn’t me. Perhaps it’s just an elderly lady that is attracted to the “Halloween” colors and doesn’t even know what TBPS cult is? Did you ever think of that?

  18. 18 Michael Taylor Jan 12th, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    To Give it up,

    I am not sure that we qualify as a cult:

    Cult - In religion and sociology, a cult is a group of people (often a new religious movement) devoted to beliefs and goals which may be contradictory to those held by the majority of society. Its marginal status may come about either due to its novel belief system or due to idiosyncratic practices that cause the surrounding culture to regard it as far outside the mainstream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

    The reason that I do not believe we qualify as a cult is that we have no religious affiliation, our goals are not contradictory to those held by the majority (we are the majority) and we do not have a belief system that is novel or idiosyncratic practices in which we participate.

    In the interest of creating dialog I welcome your response as to the elements of TBPS that meet the definition of a cult. Surely you were not expressing, “your “Opinion” NOT verified “Facts” as I do hope others will also.” I know that you will follow your own advice. ;)

  19. 19 local teacher Jan 12th, 2007 at 11:19 pm

    Sigh . . . It is getting really hard to find the real information on this site any more. I am getting really tired of digging through people’s diatribes against each other. That isn’t what I read this for. I am a supporter, but I am not going to be reading this site much longer if I have to slog through all the other stuff.

  20. 20 Admin Jan 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pm

    I agree with you and I apologize. I’m trying to balance keeping things civil on this site, while not censoring as much as possible. I encourage everyone to stick with opinions and facts on the situation at hand, not each other’s comments. I want people to feel like they can respond to what others are saying, but respond to what they’re saying, not who’s saying it.

  21. 21 Michael Taylor Jan 12th, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    Admin,

    I presume that I should take a bit of a hiatus from posting (perhaps permanent). It does not appear that I am communicating effectively. My pompous opinions do not need to distract from what you are accomplishing.

    I must again thank you for the initiative you are demonstrating and the spirit with which you are carrying out this difficult task.

    With fond regards,

    Michael Taylor

  22. 22 Admin Jan 13th, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Michael, by no means should you stop posting. I think you cause many of us to think more deeply about what we’re talking about. I have appreciated your redirection in your comments as well, so please keep them coming. The behaviour is coming from both sides, so I’d encourage everyone to do a better job of sticking to details and not to each other individually.

  23. 23 Smack That Jan 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    I am back!

    Cult characteristics indeed are found here. Cult characteristics do not have to have a religious affiliation.

    Mr. Taylor is incorrect. The movement on this site and those of the TBPS could easily be viewed as “cult” like. Who says you are the majority? In our democratic government, we elect people to represent us, they govern by majority vote. You sound like the democrats during the Ronald Reagan years.

    I have been away from this site for some time and came back to see if anything has changed. WOW! Not anything. Now I come strictly for entertainment value just like I do other message boards on the net.

    You guys are awesome, makes me want to stay in Perry Township and grow a Mullet.

    Second thought, I will be moving this summer.

  24. 24 Owen Jan 17th, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    I have e-mailed all the school board members and 3 have responded (Walsh, Houchin, Buffie). The open public forum has been delayed indefinately. The board members met with a facilitator after the Jan. 8th school board meeting (reason meeting was cut short). The facilitator indicated the board was too divided and holding a public forum would be disastrous. He suggested postponing the public forum until the board learns to communicate and get along.

    I was suprised when Nancy Walsh called me to discuss my e-mail. She felt the public forum request was to discuss Dr. Williams issues and a witch hunt for the 4 board members who placed him on leave. I reiterated that employee issues were off limits, but, the public wants answers to the questions they keep asking at the board meetings.

    While Nancy Walsh covered a lot of the same sentiments as expressed in the Anthony Karushis article listed above. She did give me some insight into Attorney Bailey’s purpose and why she voted against mediation.

    Why was Attorney Bailey hired? Attorney Bailey was hired to handle the DR. Williams investigation. They felt Attorney Bourgmann has a personal relationship with DR. Williams which would bias his investigation. Attorney Bourgmann has informed the 4 board members, that he would have recommended hiring an outside attorney because of a conflict of interest.

    Why is she refusing 3rd party mediation? She informed me that she voted against mediation because a) it included reinstatement of Dr. Williams as active superintendent. b) the 3rd party mediator was to be appointed by Indiana School Board Association Executive Director Frank Bush. She feels Bush and Williams have a personal relationship and the appointed mediator would not be unbiased. I indicated that refusing to mediate with Dr. Williams gives the appearance that it is personal. There are other independent mediators available and she should have addressed these concerns at the Nov. 27th school board meeting, when she voted against mediation. I got the impression that Nancy Walsh would not be against mediation if she could be assured of an unbiased mediator.

    Nancy Walsh is well aware that I have a TBPS sign in my yard and I am a TBPS supporter. I commend her for making the effort to talk to me and listen to my point of view. Maybe, if the other three were willing to open a dialogue, we could resolve some of these issues dividing the board and the public.

  25. 25 Ronda M. Jan 18th, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    You say that you got the impression from Nancy Walsh that she would not be against mediation if she could be assured of an unbiased mediator … why didn’t Nancy pursue that? I was under the impression that our Board could have asked for someone else and chose not to. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY NANCY!!!! Oh my word!! She talks a good talk!

    If in her heart she was TRULY for mediation, she would have pursued it as heartily as she pursued her campaign. She did not pursue mediation.

    Also, in your conversation with Nancy you state that she voted against mediation because it allowed Dr. Williams to be reinstated … the motion was for Dr. Williams to be reinstated for the PURPOSE OF MEDIATING and at the end of mediation if it was not successful, Dr. Williams would return to paid leave. Nancy didn’t attempt to even try. She had already made her mind up … and it isn’t an open mind which is what we need on our Board.

    We are tired of Nancy scolding the public that attend meetings! We are tired of her using her position for her personal agendas, i.e. disagreement with Superintendent for micromanaging, scolding public about her son (which we knew NOTHING about!, etc., etc. Poor Nancy doesn’t get it. She believes so strongly in herself that she doesn’t see what a fool she is making of herself. When she grandstanded going on about meeting with Dr. Williams, and she reported that “she” called him, etc., etc. … she wants people to think that she “tried”. Actually, I think it was darn nice of Dr. Williams to agree to meet with her! If I was him, I wouldn’t have! Look what happened. She turned it all around to be about HER!

    To “GIVE IT UP”: Unless you were at the elementary school where all of our children went to school, then you DO NOT know the TRUE NANCY. It is not opinion, but fact, witnessed by many … Nancy yelling and cursing at teachers, the Principal and Assistant Principal when she does not get what she wants!!!

    Dr. Williams experienced this firsthand and told Nancy that she would not act this way, hence… it all began.

    It amazes me that Nancy is so blind to how she is perceived by the people. It also amazes me and infuriates me that she “believes” that she is representing “a majority”. It amazes me that she “believes” that since she won an election that the voters spoke, however, she does not listen to the voters now. Nancy is known for saying, “What’s popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular.” So Nancy, you might have been popular and won votes, but I guess what is popular is not always RIGHT!!!! Truly, if a vote was held TODAY, these women would not be relected. Are they dimwitted?

    Over Christmas break, the nation watched as President Ford was laid to rest. They spoke of him as a man who healed a nation. They spoke of how he pardoned Nixon. I kept thinking of Perry Township, the Board, …
    It’s a shame that mediation with Dr. Williams was not at least attempted … it could have healed a community.

  26. 26 Anthony Karushis Jan 19th, 2007 at 7:10 am

    While I agree with most of what you are saying, I’d like to point out something. In my conversation with her, she stated that she wanted to mediate with the board first, then look at the possibility of mediation with Dr Williams. I don’t necessarily agree with her, but I do understand her position.

  27. 27 concerned father Jan 19th, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    I dont think we will ever know the whole story. I have had my childern (3) in perry for only 2yrs. they were in I.P.S..I wanted to come to perry for my childern.If I had to pick I would say I am a Williams supporter but I have learned that theire is allways 2 sides to every thing.I fell that if mediation would be done that I could live with what was decided.I may not like the outcome but it would have been at least heard by a thrid party an take away the he said she said part of the problem.I would just like to see this end so we can get on with outher issues in our comunites and schools.I dont have any problem money on my childerns education but I dont see what all this money we are all spending is teaching my childern.

  28. 28 Take great care! Jan 20th, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    Dear local teacher,

    You may not like hearing about Nancy Walsh, but you need to hear about her because she will be one who will be signing your next contract! You need to understand how this woman thinks and behaves because what she does based on what she thinks will determine your pay, your benefits, your classroom, and your future here in Perry.

    I think that those of us who know Nancy are doing you a big favor by letting you know what she is. I wish we had all known before the election; she would never have been elected!

    She and Susan Adams appear to run this comedy of errors and will be making the decisions that affect you and yours. Of course, the other 2 will do what they are told - esp. Barbara Thompson. If Nancy lies and manipulates, deceives, scolds folks in public, and yells at and curses teachers and principals, what do you suppose she will decide about your contract? Think - RIF, larger classrooms, less money for classrooms, inferior curriculums, township debt, lack of good leadership, etc. What’s that old saying about “going to the source”?

    Based on what you know, you might decide to leave Perry, work against the Board, put a sign in your yard, or attend a school board meeting to show the 4 that you do not support their unethical, incompetent decisions and actions.

    So, again, I say Take Great Care with regard to Nancy Walsh.

  29. 29 MacArthur Parent Jan 23rd, 2007 at 11:10 pm

    Thank you Mr. Karushis for meeting with Nancy Walsh. I appreciate your professionalism and your time. The following is not written to you, sir, but to the readers of this website so they can read between the lines of Nancy’s words. I also felt that your meeting and the results of were important that they needed to be published again. Again, thank you. My editorial of your meeting with Nancy Walsh:

    I had to smile when I read Nancy’s response to your question, “Is there any way to stop them from continuing their course to remove the superintendent? Will they consider mediation with the superintendent then? She (Nancy) was not opposed to this. She (Nancy) stated she is trying to keep an open mind.” — Nancy Walsh is the serpent of deception! Nancy Walsh made it clear in her address/speech at the December Board Meeting that there would be NO working with Dr. Williams after her 2 hour meeting with him! Nancy was quite emotional, spoke loudly and was adamant about this! So, has Nancy had a change in heart???
    OBVIOUSLY NOT, as seen by her ACTIONS at Monday’s Board Meeting (Jan. 22) when she got up and walked out of the Board Meeting with the “gang” and refused to listen to people who had signed up to speak.

    “Nancy also pointed out that keeping an open mind and keeping your emotions in check is difficult with the way people have been acting lately”. –
    Nancy’s attitude about OTHERS is infuriating! She is blaming OTHERS, but fails to understand that people are REACTING to her actions, Adams’, Thompson’s and Alexander’s actions!

    “Nancy said that she doesn’t have, and hopes not to find, any evidence of illegal actions on his part.” –
    I do not believe Nancy. She and the ‘gang’ DO hope to find something! That was their sole reason for the proposed independent audit. Nancy’s facial expression of frustration and disappointment were very evident and priceless when the independent and costly audit wasn’t approved and placed on the NEXT meeting’s agenda. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!
    Also, if Nancy does NOT have any evidence of illegal action, then what IS SHE DOING keeping a Superintendent on an indefinite paid leave ?!?!?

    “Nancy pointed out that she is probably the swing vote.” — NANCY WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO ‘THINK’ SHE IS THE SWING VOTE. She is the primary instigator! Remember, all of this began after Nancy Walsh and Barbara Thompson were elected to the board. Nancy had a difficult time getting along with others at MacArthur. Nancy wants people to ‘think’ she’s the swing vote. She’s sneaky. Her ‘word’ cannot be trusted.

    “Mr. Karushis asked her (Nancy) if she truly believes that she is representing the majority opinion. She (Nancy) believes she is.” — This is another example of Nancy only listening and hearing ‘Nancy’. The woman is delusional if she believes that SHE is representing the VOTER MAJORITY! It’s sad. It’s sick. It’s scary that she is on the Board of Education.

    “Mr. Karushis pointed out to Nancy that the public perception of her and the rest of the board members is not necessarily what they see themselves. Mr. Karushis gave Nancy examples of some of the things she has said and what we thought they meant. –
    SHE (NANCY) SEEMED SURPRISED that some of her comments came across different than she intended. One example is the, I’LL (NANCY) RESIGN, IF YOU RESIGN comment. I told her this sounded like her entire purpose was to get him to resign. SHE WAS SHOCKED. Nancy stated that her intended purpose was to point out that this whole issue was bigger than either one of them. It is bigger than any one person. —
    Nancy was SURPRISED and SHOCKED by how she is perceived by the public???!!! I refer to my comment above that Mrs. Walsh is somewhat delusional. Nancy stating that her intended purpose was to point out that this issue is bigger than either of them … HOGWASH!!! Once again, Nancy’s response was one for the stage. I don’t believe her.
    Actually, when I heard her make the “I’ll resign, if you resign” comment at the Board Meeting and the way in which she did so (emotional, loud), the first thought that came to my mind was how self-important she thinks she is.

    In addition to a mediator and facilitator, perhaps Mrs. Walsh can get a group deal that would include a psychologist! Money doesn’t seem to be a concern!

  30. 30 MR.ROBERT DESTEFANO Feb 8th, 2007 at 11:21 am

    THE PERRY TOWNSHIP SCHOOLS OUR OUT OF CONTROL!WE MUST PUT STUDENT SAFTEY AND EDUCATION FIRST,THERE IS NO REASON TO ATTACK ANY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER,ANY TEACHER,OR DR.WILLIAMS.THE FACT IS THE SCHOOL BOARD CAN FIRE DR.WILLIAMS,OTHER SUPERINTENDS LIKE DR.WHITE WENT TO IPS.DR.WILLIAMS AND HIS SUPPORTERS CAN SEE THE HARM THIS IS DOING TO THE STUDENTS OF PERRY TOWNSHIP,I CALL UPON YOU DR. WILLIAMS TO RESIGN YOUR POSITION SO THE STUDENTS WHO YOU STATE SHOULD COME FIRST CAN.TO THE READERS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT ARMED OFFICERS AT BOARD MEETINGS,DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OVER ONE HUNDRED FIGHTS IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS?SO MANY STUDENTS TAKEN OUT IN HANDCUFFS FOR FIGHTING AND DRUGS!THIS IS WHERE THE SCHOOL BOARD,TEACHERS,AND ALL CONCERNED PARENTS NEED TO SO FIRED UP ABOUT!IF YOU HAVE A CHILD IN ANY PERRY MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL THIS,HAVE YOU SEEN A FIGHT?A STUDENT USEING ILLEGAL DRUGS?THE ANSWER IS YES.CAN ANYONE LEARN WHEN YOU DO NOT FEEL SAFE?MY OWN SON HAS BEEN ATTACKED TWICE NOW,MOST RECENTLY FEB.2 2007.THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS,AND THESE PROBLEMS OUR MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THEN DR.WILLIAMS OR THE SCHOOL BOARD!IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON,AND GIVE OUR SCHOOLS BACK TO THE STUDENTS!!!!

  31. 31 NOT Impressed Feb 8th, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Mr. DeStefano,

    Sorry about your child and that cap-lock problem. The students never had the schools, so we can’t give the schools back to them. Do you really want the students in charge of the schools? I doubt that. What you want are rules that can be enforced and delivered by people who can be respected, so your child has a place where he can pursue his education. That’s what we all want. This board is not capable of delivering what you want and that’s why all of this is going on.

  1. 1 Take Back Perry Schools » Anthony Karushis Meets With Nancy Walsh Pingback on Jan 9th, 2007 at 8:53 am

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