Comments on: Robert’s Rules of Order http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/ An Online Forum for Voices to be Heard and Facts Understood Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:54:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Saddened Mom http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-222 Saddened Mom Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:47:02 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-222 It seems as if Mrs. Adams chooses to make up the rules as she goes along. (Just as she seems to make up allegations and make up complaints about threatening emails.) She's obviously not playing fair! It seems as if Mrs. Adams chooses to make up the rules as she goes along. (Just as she seems to make up allegations and make up complaints about threatening emails.) She’s obviously not playing fair!

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By: Jon Doe http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-229 Jon Doe Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:00:16 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-229 For the past several years, teachers, parents, and students were all heavily against "Dr." WIliiams. And now, when someone finally does something to change it, everyone hops off that bandwagon and back onto Williams'. You are all ridiculous. The board is elected by the people and they can fire their employees whenever they want. Get over it. Move on. It's been done. Go back to your lives and stop making websites that you think matter in some way. For the past several years, teachers, parents, and students were all heavily against “Dr.” WIliiams. And now, when someone finally does something to change it, everyone hops off that bandwagon and back onto Williams’. You are all ridiculous. The board is elected by the people and they can fire their employees whenever they want. Get over it. Move on. It’s been done. Go back to your lives and stop making websites that you think matter in some way.

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By: Ken http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-239 Ken Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:56:44 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-239 Jon Doe, We need to keep the facts straight. Dr. Williams HAS NOT been fired. He has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an "investigation" that does not seem to be happening. We keep hearing about this large bandwagon of people who want him out, but when given the opportunity to make comments (especially on this site) they wish to remain hidden behind identities like "Jon Doe" and "Let's think about it". In public, this bandwagon of people fail to hop on their horse and buggy and show up? Jon Doe,

We need to keep the facts straight. Dr. Williams HAS NOT been fired. He has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an “investigation” that does not seem to be happening.

We keep hearing about this large bandwagon of people who want him out, but when given the opportunity to make comments (especially on this site) they wish to remain hidden behind identities like “Jon Doe” and “Let’s think about it”. In public, this bandwagon of people fail to hop on their horse and buggy and show up?

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By: Question Mark http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-242 Question Mark Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:26:25 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-242 To Jon Doe (and I assume this is not THE Jon Doe from the great rock band .... X), I have worked in Perry township a long time and lived here even longer. I am very confused about your comment stating that for the past several years parents, teachers, and students have been heavily against Dr. Williiams. I have no recollection of a significant number of people from any of these groups being against our superintendent. Of course, in a school system as large as ours you are going to have some people who disagree and some people I'm sure have been against Williams (to use your words) BUT the vast majority of Perry parents, teachers, students, and residents have been quite pleased with Dr. Williams as the leader of our schools. That is why there is such a public outcry now (as you mentioned in your post). To Jon Doe (and I assume this is not THE Jon Doe from the great rock band …. X),

I have worked in Perry township a long time and lived here even longer. I am very confused about your comment stating that for the past several years parents, teachers, and students have been heavily against Dr. Williiams. I have no recollection of a significant number of people from any of these groups being against our superintendent. Of course, in a school system as large as ours you are going to have some people who disagree and some people I’m sure have been against Williams (to use your words) BUT the vast majority of Perry parents, teachers, students, and residents have been quite pleased with Dr. Williams as the leader of our schools. That is why there is such a public outcry now (as you mentioned in your post).

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By: Jon Doe http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-249 Jon Doe Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-249 I was a student of Perry Township for 13 years. My comments of teachers, students, and parents being against Dr. Williams is entirely true. I have heard students talk about him, parents talk about him, and especially heard some of the most respected teachers talk about him. Rarely were these comments positive. And for everyone to be so behind a man who has gotten us to one of the worst drop out rates in the state is ridiculous. Perry Township ranks only behind IPS schools and places like Gary, Indiana. Perry Township schools are in the toilet. Replacing the principal at Perry was a start, and replacing the superintendent will hopefully start to turn around this township. I was a student of Perry Township for 13 years. My comments of teachers, students, and parents being against Dr. Williams is entirely true. I have heard students talk about him, parents talk about him, and especially heard some of the most respected teachers talk about him. Rarely were these comments positive. And for everyone to be so behind a man who has gotten us to one of the worst drop out rates in the state is ridiculous. Perry Township ranks only behind IPS schools and places like Gary, Indiana. Perry Township schools are in the toilet. Replacing the principal at Perry was a start, and replacing the superintendent will hopefully start to turn around this township.

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By: Barb http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-252 Barb Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:13:21 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-252 Jon Doe...you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you are going to start throwing alleged facts around, identify yourself. Be a man and quit hiding behind all of these false identities. What are you afraid of? Jon Doe…you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you are going to start throwing alleged facts around, identify yourself. Be a man and quit hiding behind all of these false identities. What are you afraid of?

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By: Ken http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-253 Ken Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:29:58 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-253 John Doe, Contrary to the beliefs of some people, the responsibility for the drop out rates do not solely lie upon the shoulders of Dr. Williams or his administration. A student's attitude, commitment to learning, the teacher's commitment to teaching and most importantly the involvement by the parents in the educational process is the key. If I, as a parent, do not stress the importance of learning then I am the most guilty. Once a child enters any school system the parents have made a 12 year commitment to support their child and the teachers involved with their student. If the parents don't do their job then the teachers can't do theirs. Education begins at home but does not stop when a child leaves the house and enters school. While replacing a principal or superintendent may help, or in this case hurt the administrative process, it is not the only answer! Stop holding Dr. Williams soley responsible for the dropout rate. John Doe,

Contrary to the beliefs of some people, the responsibility for the drop out rates do not solely lie upon the shoulders of Dr. Williams or his administration. A student’s attitude, commitment to learning, the teacher’s commitment to teaching and most importantly the involvement by the parents in the educational process is the key.

If I, as a parent, do not stress the importance of learning then I am the most guilty. Once a child enters any school system the parents have made a 12 year commitment to support their child and the teachers involved with their student. If the parents don’t do their job then the teachers can’t do theirs. Education begins at home but does not stop when a child leaves the house and enters school.

While replacing a principal or superintendent may help, or in this case hurt the administrative process, it is not the only answer! Stop holding Dr. Williams soley responsible for the dropout rate.

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By: Kelly http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-272 Kelly Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:31:01 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-272 Jon Doe, FYI...my daughter falls under the percentage of "dropouts", but I assure you she is not a loser. She opted to home school due to some health issues; however, she took a couple of classes at Perry, as well. She scored very high on I-Steps and SAT exams. She also received college credit for some of her high school classes. Although a home school diploma is perfectly acceptable in Indiana, she CHOSE to take the GED, and passed with Honors. She is a college student now at one of the nations most respected universities, and she is doing quite well. So, Jon, as you can see...things are not always as they appear. Several of my daughter's friends also obtained their home school diplomas for various reasons. Your statistics of MSDPT dropouts does not represent the whole picture. Jon Doe,

FYI…my daughter falls under the percentage of “dropouts”, but I assure you she is not a loser. She opted to home school due to some health issues; however, she took a couple of classes at Perry, as well. She scored very high on I-Steps and SAT exams. She also received college credit for some of her high school classes. Although a home school diploma is perfectly acceptable in Indiana, she CHOSE to take the GED, and passed with Honors. She is a college student now at one of the nations most respected universities, and she is doing quite well.

So, Jon, as you can see…things are not always as they appear. Several of my daughter’s friends also obtained their home school diplomas for various reasons. Your statistics of MSDPT dropouts does not represent the whole picture.

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By: Jon Doe http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-274 Jon Doe Sun, 10 Dec 2006 06:24:12 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-274 Oh Barb. Would you prefer me put up just a first name like you? Would that make you feel better? Ok, Just call me Bob, or Steve, or anything else for that matter since my name doesn't matter. What I've posted is true whether you care to believe it or not. I have no reason to sit on this website posting false things. But you all have clearly made up your minds on this entire situation anyways. I could play a tape recording of Williams saying death to perry and all that would be posted is ohh, he supported us during Ragtime!! Williams for President! Here's an idea, let's get him to run in '08! Henry can be Vice president, they'd be about as good as Bush Cheney. The township needed change, and regardless of how it was done by the school board, it was done by the school board. The ELECTED school board. Over half of you probably didn't even vote in the school board election which makes you all just as guilty. It's been done. Move on. Do you think the people who have made this decision are sitting at home reading this and going oh no, what did I do, I better backtrack so some people don't dislike me? Grow up and move on. Oh Barb. Would you prefer me put up just a first name like you? Would that make you feel better? Ok, Just call me Bob, or Steve, or anything else for that matter since my name doesn’t matter. What I’ve posted is true whether you care to believe it or not. I have no reason to sit on this website posting false things. But you all have clearly made up your minds on this entire situation anyways. I could play a tape recording of Williams saying death to perry and all that would be posted is ohh, he supported us during Ragtime!! Williams for President! Here’s an idea, let’s get him to run in ‘08! Henry can be Vice president, they’d be about as good as Bush Cheney. The township needed change, and regardless of how it was done by the school board, it was done by the school board. The ELECTED school board. Over half of you probably didn’t even vote in the school board election which makes you all just as guilty. It’s been done. Move on. Do you think the people who have made this decision are sitting at home reading this and going oh no, what did I do, I better backtrack so some people don’t dislike me? Grow up and move on.

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By: Barb http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-280 Barb Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:25:49 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-280 Jon Doe/Mark Thompson.....you are completely crazy. It is embarrassing to have anyone like you speaking out in our township. Go back thru the posts everyone...read the comments by Joe Mamma, by Richard Tuber....and probably many more. They are all Mark Thompson. His "way" of writing really stands out. Let me remind you Mark, YOU were not elected to the school board, so you need to back off and stay out of things that don't concern you. I never really understood the true meaning of idiot until I started reading your thoughts. Wow.... you really are insane. Jon Doe/Mark Thompson…..you are completely crazy. It is embarrassing to have anyone like you speaking out in our township. Go back thru the posts everyone…read the comments by Joe Mamma, by Richard Tuber….and probably many more. They are all Mark Thompson. His “way” of writing really stands out. Let me remind you Mark, YOU were not elected to the school board, so you need to back off and stay out of things that don’t concern you. I never really understood the true meaning of idiot until I started reading your thoughts. Wow…. you really are insane.

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By: Jon Doe http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-287 Jon Doe Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:29:15 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-287 Kelly, I never said that everyone who dropped out was a loser. Clearly, some students have circumstances in which it IS best for them to drop out and do what your daughter did. However, when you start with a freshman class of over 500 and graduate with barely over 300, something is wrong. The dropout rate is not the only thing wrong with this township. There are far too many to name. These are not "alleged facts" as Barb likes to call them either. Barb- I am not Mark Thompson. You are not a student of Perry Township, and I doubt that you have been, and if you were, it was much too long ago to speak out on things you don't know. Being a student of this township, I know how bad it has gotten. Believe it or not, I really don't care what you choose to believe. You can tell me to back off and stay out of things, that's fine. You can choose to get defensive even though nothing has been said about you. You can call me an embarassment all you want, even though that doesn't do anything to me and does nothing for you. Kelly, I never said that everyone who dropped out was a loser. Clearly, some students have circumstances in which it IS best for them to drop out and do what your daughter did. However, when you start with a freshman class of over 500 and graduate with barely over 300, something is wrong. The dropout rate is not the only thing wrong with this township. There are far too many to name. These are not “alleged facts” as Barb likes to call them either.
Barb- I am not Mark Thompson. You are not a student of Perry Township, and I doubt that you have been, and if you were, it was much too long ago to speak out on things you don’t know. Being a student of this township, I know how bad it has gotten. Believe it or not, I really don’t care what you choose to believe. You can tell me to back off and stay out of things, that’s fine. You can choose to get defensive even though nothing has been said about you. You can call me an embarassment all you want, even though that doesn’t do anything to me and does nothing for you.

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By: Take great care! http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-751 Take great care! Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:48:06 +0000 http://www.wesupportwilliams.com/news/2006/12/03/roberts-rules-of-order/#comment-751 Jon Doe, You even sound like a high school student, one who certainly has been thououghly brainwashed and is too emotionally involved to recognize it, because you lack reason, you exhibit bitterness and hatred, and you are unwilling to even consider another's point of view. Read your comments in about 7 years; I hope you'll see what the rest of us see. Good luck! In the meantime, I hope your children won't have to be the ones suffering from the damage this Board majority will have caused our educational system. Jon Doe,

You even sound like a high school student, one who certainly has been thououghly brainwashed and is too emotionally involved to recognize it, because you lack reason, you exhibit bitterness and hatred, and you are unwilling to even consider another’s point of view.

Read your comments in about 7 years; I hope you’ll see what the rest of us see. Good luck!

In the meantime, I hope your children won’t have to be the ones suffering from the damage this Board majority will have caused our educational system.

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